RWC Final: England v Springboks
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@Duluth said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Nevorian said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
And another interesting piece of trivia, Francois Steyn is the only player to win two world cups over a period of 12 years, both against England
Didn’t Os du Randt do that too?
Os won his first against us, second against England
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@canefan oh shit I could stand corrected, he was around foe a long time so highly possible
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@Duluth said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
He did win 12 years apart. Wasn’t sure if I was misreading your post
Steyn won in 2007 and 2019 both against England. Os win his first against us and the second against England. So he doesn't apply to your trivia tidbit
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@Mokey said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
SA fave moments of tournament:
- Winning against England
- Losing to NZ
England won it for Boks. ABs will beat them 2/3 right now.
Boks worthy RWC 2019 winners. And RC double unique to date.
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@Duluth said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
He did win 12 years apart. Wasn’t sure if I was misreading your post
All dual Bok winners have.
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@gt12 said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Interesting stat.
Edit:
Link not working, but anyway it shows that no team has ever won the WC after knocking out the ABs. At least we are the kiss of death.
Takes too much out of them.
@antipodean said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@gt12 said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Interesting stat.
Edit:
Link not working, but anyway it shows that no team has ever won the WC after knocking out the ABs. At least we are the kiss of death.
Takes too much out of them.
Oz 1991?
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Ah man something about the poms reaction doesn't sit well. They just look like sore losers. None of them even want to wear their medals. Kinda feels disrespectful.
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If you haven't seen the post match press conference with the Boks it is well worth a watch. Full credit to both men and the Bok team as a whole, pure class. Rassie had a story they all bought into, much like how Razor does with the Crusaders.
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If you haven't seen the post match press conference with the Boks it is well worth a watch. Full credit to both men and the Bok team as a whole, pure class. Rassie had a story they all bought into, much like how Razor does with the Crusaders.
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@chimoaus I love that bit when he said they weren't under pressure, pressure was not having a job or ending up dead. Like some at home. Way to put it into perspective
@canefan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@chimoaus I love that bit when he said they weren't under pressure, pressure was not having a job or ending up dead. Like some at home. Way to put it into perspective
Must admit almost bought a tear to my eye when he was saying these things and the kind words he had for Kolisi. Even the look of contentment on his face in between questions was pure.
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@canefan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@chimoaus I love that bit when he said they weren't under pressure, pressure was not having a job or ending up dead. Like some at home. Way to put it into perspective
Must admit almost bought a tear to my eye when he was saying these things and the kind words he had for Kolisi. Even the look of contentment on his face in between questions was pure.
@chimoaus said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@canefan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@chimoaus I love that bit when he said they weren't under pressure, pressure was not having a job or ending up dead. Like some at home. Way to put it into perspective
Must admit almost bought a tear to my eye when he was saying these things and the kind words he had for Kolisi. Even the look of contentment on his face in between questions was pure.
Hard to begrudge genuinely humble guys like that
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@Luigi @Catogrande and the other Englishmen on here: harsh lines. Your boys showed some heart, particularly fighting back in the scrums.
And I’d be surprised if this English side doesnt keep improving. Which is a frightening thought.
@Smuts said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Luigi @Catogrande and the other Englishmen on here: harsh lines. Your boys showed some heart, particularly fighting back in the scrums.
And I’d be surprised if this English side doesnt keep improving. Which is a frightening thought.
Thanks Smuts and congratulations to you and the other Saffer posters. Deserved winners and in truth it didn't look like going the other way almost from the off. We ddin't really get to fire a shot, which is down to the level of control your boys had. Well played Bokke.
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@junior said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
England and their arrogant coach celebrated beating the All Blacks like it was VE day. Hubris.
Nemesis comes in the form of the Springboks.
What a load of rubbish.
Most of the English fans are great. I was thinking about some of the rubbish that has been in the UK media this week.
As with most countries, the real rugby people are wonderful. Sadly, it’s the bandwagon jumpers, bringing their petty footballing fan culture, that ruin it for everyone. England, quite naturally given the size of their population just tend to have more than most
This is the sort of shit that I hate about rugby in this country - the people who put themselves on a pedestal because the like rugby. Or call people “rugby guys” like it’s some sort of compliment.
It’s a sport. If you’re a piston wristed gibbon, you’re a piston wristed gibbon.
Most people in this world are good people. Rugby has no higher ratio of good guys than any other sport - despite what the rugby guys will tell you.
@MajorRage said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@junior said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
England and their arrogant coach celebrated beating the All Blacks like it was VE day. Hubris.
Nemesis comes in the form of the Springboks.
What a load of rubbish.
Most of the English fans are great. I was thinking about some of the rubbish that has been in the UK media this week.
As with most countries, the real rugby people are wonderful. Sadly, it’s the bandwagon jumpers, bringing their petty footballing fan culture, that ruin it for everyone. England, quite naturally given the size of their population just tend to have more than most
This is the sort of shit that I hate about rugby in this country - the people who put themselves on a pedestal because the like rugby. Or call people “rugby guys” like it’s some sort of compliment.
It’s a sport. If you’re a piston wristed gibbon, you’re a piston wristed gibbon.
Most people in this world are good people. Rugby has no higher ratio of good guys than any other sport - despite what the rugby guys will tell you.
I'm going to disagree with you on that one, MR. Rugby, as a sport, is built on certain values, which are driven not just by tradition, but also what it takes to actually go out and play (courage, determination, teamwork, respect etc.). In short, you have to be a certain kind of person to put yourself on the field and play rugby (even do the bare minimum).
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If you haven't seen the post match press conference with the Boks it is well worth a watch. Full credit to both men and the Bok team as a whole, pure class. Rassie had a story they all bought into, much like how Razor does with the Crusaders.
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@NTA said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
As for Sinkcler and Itoje not wearing their medals: I have no problem with that. They're young men who just lost the biggest game of their lives. They were hurting, but tomorrow they'll look back and appreciate what they learned.
My comparison is getting a silver at the olympics. Would be all sorts of shit thrown at someone that refused to have their silver medal put around their neck or to rip it off straight away.
See the Olympics are respected as the pinnacle. What Itoje and Sinkcler did was disrespect the very competition they were aiming to claim glory from. 'If we don't win it then it is shit' was the message they gave.
Sport means sucking up your disappointments as well as revelling in successes. It also means respecting the oppositions achievements.
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"Controversy". I didn't detect any but apparently there was.
Mrs Boo didn't last the match last night so I mention this morning "So the slightly less bad guys won".
She says (having checked news web sites) "Quite controversial apparently". Seems she had read some comment about "Kiwi TMO" Skeenie and forward passes. I've been hunting for said comments but can't find anything.
I can only assume it was referring to the Marx pass to Mapimpi that they had a close look at. From behind (which was the angle they seemed to concentrate on) it looked line ball at worst. From side on it goes backwards. Not much controversial in that.
Did see Stuff.co.nz have a reference to "controversial" in the banner headline that flashed up when I clicked on them, but could find no further reference.
Has there been much comment on the scrum officiating?
All looked clean and good to me.
@booboo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
"Controversy". I didn't detect any but apparently there was.
Mrs Boo didn't last the match last night so I mention this morning "So the slightly less bad guys won".
She says (having checked news web sites) "Quite controversial apparently". Seems she had read some comment about "Kiwi TMO" Skeenie and forward passes. I've been hunting for said comments but can't find anything.
I can only assume it was referring to the Marx pass to Mapimpi that they had a close look at. From behind (which was the angle they seemed to concentrate on) it looked line ball at worst. From side on it goes backwards. Not much controversial in that.
Did see Stuff.co.nz have a reference to "controversial" in the banner headline that flashed up when I clicked on them, but could find no further reference.
Has there been much comment on the scrum officiating?
All looked clean and good to me.
If that's the case, I find it very interesting, because Youngs throws dozens of line-ball passes every single match to their big ball runners, which no one seems to notice or comment on.
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@geebee said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
we beat them,i don't view them as world champs.
Dick statement
@NTA said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@geebee said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
we beat them,i don't view them as world champs.
Dick statement
No one else wearing gold medals.
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@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Commiserations to England, arguably the best team across the competition.
Considering England, SA and NZ all lost a match I’m not sure how you reach that conclusion.
@Crucial said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:
Commiserations to England, arguably the best team across the competition.
Considering England, SA and NZ all lost a match I’m not sure how you reach that conclusion.
No 3 in world.
