England & Eddie
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Junior, we also agree that the game plan for the Ireland test was the one we should have gone for vs England. It is easy to forget that before all the fancy stuff in the QF we spent the first part of the game bludgeoning our way through the heart of the Irish defence. We even gave them an attacking Gary Owen FFS. Why Hansen and Co thought that England, who play a similar type of game to Ireland, would be beaten by loosie goosie all out attacking rugby, beggars belief. The more I think about it the more it upsets me!!!! We could have easily changed plans at half time. It is a total head scratcher and a systemic failure from all concerned that we didn't
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@canefan said in England & Eddie:
Junior, we also agree that the game plan for the Ireland test was the one we should have gone for vs England. It is easy to forget that before all the fancy stuff in the QF we spent the first part of the game bludgeoning our way through the heart of the Irish defence. We even gave them an attacking Gary Owen FFS. Why Hansen and Co thought that England, who play a similar type of game to Ireland, would be beaten by loosie goosie all out attacking rugby, beggars belief. The more I think about it the more it upsets me!!!! We could have easily changed plans at half time. It is a total head scratcher and a systemic failure from all concerned that we didn't
Fully on board with this. I don't think that England and Ireland are that different in terms of their style - England just do it much better.
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@nzzp said in England & Eddie:
They also got to bring back NH players who were playing (as it turned out) in some very good competitions. Australia too - both teams lifted this year with the introduction of hgih quality players. It's a new thing; in the past, players coming back couldn't handle the pace and intensity of the game. That's changed and it made a difference.
I was having similar thoughts when thinking about the SH v NH thing - for South Africa, it really is about having a foot in two camps, and understanding - in the last 4 months - how to weld it together.
Here's how:
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@junior said in England & Eddie:
@canefan said in England & Eddie:
Junior, we also agree that the game plan for the Ireland test was the one we should have gone for vs England. It is easy to forget that before all the fancy stuff in the QF we spent the first part of the game bludgeoning our way through the heart of the Irish defence. We even gave them an attacking Gary Owen FFS. Why Hansen and Co thought that England, who play a similar type of game to Ireland, would be beaten by loosie goosie all out attacking rugby, beggars belief. The more I think about it the more it upsets me!!!! We could have easily changed plans at half time. It is a total head scratcher and a systemic failure from all concerned that we didn't
Fully on board with this. I don't think that England and Ireland are that different in terms of their style - England just do it much better.
As I mentioned in the hardest RWC losses thread just now, if it wasn't for the anaesthetic of winning in 11 and 15, this cup loss would rank much higher. Let's not get carried away, we had the cattle. On the field and the bench we had the cattle to give ourselves a better shot of winning than we gave. Our tactics were piss poor
