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Barbarians: November 2019 Tour

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #71

    Having seen some photos on Bryn Hall's instagram, it looks like Warren Gatland has called up a few North Harbour boys for the Baabaas. Bryn Hall, Matt Duffie and Shaun Stevenson are all staying in the same hotel in Cardiff as the Barbarians, instead of joining their SR team's for the first week of pre-season. Is Bryn Gatland still injured, or can we expect to see him in the Baabaas jersey, too?

    Edited to add that it looks like some of the South African players have gone home.

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      Robbie Deans has joined Warren Gatland as coach for the Barbarians match against Wales.

      There have also been several changes in the Baabaas squad; David Havili, Andrew Makalio and a few Springboks have gone home, while the three Harbour players that I mentioned in a previous post, have joined the team.

      FORWARDS
      Tyler ARDRON (Waikoto Chiefs & Canada)
      Rory BEST (Ulster & Ireland)
      George BIAGI (Zebre & Italy)
      Schalk BRITS (Blue Bulls & South Africa)
      Angus COTTRELL (Melbourne Rebels)
      Wiehahn HERBST (Blue Bulls)
      Luke JONES (Melbourne Rebels & Australia)
      Campese MAAFU (Leicester Tigers & Fiji)
      Craig MILLAR (Sunwolves)
      Pete SAMU (ACT Brumbies & Australia)
      Marco van STADEN (Blue Bulls & South Africa)
      Josh STRAUSS (Stade Francais & Scotland)
      Hencus van WYK (Sunwolves)

      BACKS
      Mathieu BASTAREAUD (Lyon & France)
      Curwin BOSCH (Natal Sharks & South Africa)
      Matt DUFFIE (Auckland Blues & New Zealand)
      Andre ESTERHUIZEN (Natal Sharks & South Africa)
      Bautista EZCURRA (Jaguares & Argentina)
      Bryn HALL (Crusaders & Maori All Blacks)
      Cornal HENDRICKS (Blue Bulls & South Africa)
      Dillyn LEYDS (Stormers & South Africa)
      Makazole MAPIMPI (Natal Sharks & South Africa)
      Billy MEAKES (Melbourne Rebels)
      Shaun STEVENSON (Waikoto Chiefs & Maori All Blacks)
      Jano VERMAAK (Stormers & South Africa)

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        At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

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        • gt12G gt12

          At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

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          @gt12 said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

          At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

          Wakatoo isn't that hard is it?

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            At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

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            @gt12 said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

            At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

            It's weird how they've put a region before some teams (Natal, Auckland, Waikoto) and not others (Crusaders, Stormers).

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              @gt12 said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

              At least they consistently misspelled Waikato.

              It's weird how they've put a region before some teams (Natal, Auckland, Waikoto) and not others (Crusaders, Stormers).

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              @Bones I assume they've only added a region before the name where there's the possibility of confusion with another team? (Waikato Chiefs - Exeter Chiefs, Natal Sharks - Sale Sharks, Auckland Blues - Cardiff Blues)

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Bones I assume they've only added a region before the name where there's the possibility of confusion with another team? (Waikato Chiefs - Exeter Chiefs, Natal Sharks - Sale Sharks, Auckland Blues - Cardiff Blues)

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                @Stargazer said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

                @Bones I assume they've only added a region before the name where there's the possibility of confusion with another team? (Waikato Chiefs - Exeter Chiefs, Natal Sharks - Sale Sharks, Auckland Blues - Cardiff Blues)

                Well that's what anyone with at least a hint of intelligence would think, yes.

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                  https://twitter.com/WelshRugbyUnion/status/1199274653459603457

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                    https://twitter.com/WelshRugbyUnion/status/1199274653459603457

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                    @Stargazer said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

                    https://twitter.com/WelshRugbyUnion/status/1199274653459603457

                    Kiwi Curse strikes again

                    Poor bastard

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                      SO if he doesn't play does he become ineligible for another two or so years on residency?

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                        SO if he doesn't play does he become ineligible for another two or so years on residency?

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                        @Machpants I don't think so. He has met the residency requirement as it applies before the cut-off date of 31 December 2020. The words "... consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing" in Regulation 8.1 (see below) make it a bit unclear, but it would be weird if an injury would lead to an extension of the residency requirement.

                        8.1 Subject to Regulation 8.2, a Player may only play for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team, the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team and the senior National Representative Sevens Team of the Union of the country with which the Player has a genuine, close, credible and established national link in which:
                        
                        (c) he has completed sixty¹ consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing; or
                        
                        ¹ The sixty-month residency requirement comes into effect after the cut-off date of December 31, 2020. The residency requirement up to and including December 31, 2020 is “thirty-six consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing”.
                        
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                          @Machpants I don't think so. He has met the residency requirement as it applies before the cut-off date of 31 December 2020. The words "... consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing" in Regulation 8.1 (see below) make it a bit unclear, but it would be weird if an injury would lead to an extension of the residency requirement.

                          8.1 Subject to Regulation 8.2, a Player may only play for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team, the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team and the senior National Representative Sevens Team of the Union of the country with which the Player has a genuine, close, credible and established national link in which:
                          
                          (c) he has completed sixty¹ consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing; or
                          
                          ¹ The sixty-month residency requirement comes into effect after the cut-off date of December 31, 2020. The residency requirement up to and including December 31, 2020 is “thirty-six consecutive months of Residence immediately preceding the time of playing”.
                          
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                          @Stargazer It'd be a nasty surprise but to me it looks like it does. After 31st December to play under residency requirements you've gotta have done 60 months. He won't have. Same as sometimes players get picked for training squads, even before they are resident, doesn't lock them in until they play a test.

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                              Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Johnny McNicholl, 13 Owen Watkin, 12 Hadleigh Parkes, 11 Josh Adams, 10 Jarrod Evans, 9 Tomos Williams, 1 Wyn Jones, 2 Ken Owens, 3 Dillon Lewis, 4 Jake Ball, 5 Adam Beard, 6 Aaron Shingler, 7 Justin Tipuric (capt), 8 Aaron Wainwright..

                              Replacements: Elliot Dee, Rob Evans, Leon Brown, Seb Davies, Ollie Griffiths, Gareth Davies, Sam Davies, Owen Lane.

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                                  Wales Women:
                                  15 Lauren Smyth; 14 Paige Randall, 13 Megan Webb, 12 Kerin Lake, 11 Lisa Neumann; 10 Elinor Snowsill, 9 Keira Bevan; 1 Gwenllian Pyrs, 2 Kelsey Jones , 3 Cerys Hale, 4 Natalia John, 5 Gwen Crabb, 6 Robyn Lock, 7 Bethan Lewis, 8 Siwan Lillicrap (capt)

                                  Replacements: 16 Molly Kelly, 17 Gwenllian Jenkins, 18 Amy Evans, 19 Abbie Fleming, 20 Alex Callender, 21 Ffion Lewis, 22 Robyn Wilkins, 23 Kayleigh Powell

                                  https://www.wru.wales/2019/11/siwan-we-want-to-do-wales-proud/

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                                    Kick-off times in NZT:

                                    Sunday, 1 December 2019
                                    12.45am: Wales Women v Barbarians Women
                                    3.45am: Wales Men v Barbarians Men

                                    :television: Both games LIVE on Sky Sport 1

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                                      Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Johnny McNicholl, 13 Owen Watkin, 12 Hadleigh Parkes, 11 Josh Adams, 10 Jarrod Evans, 9 Tomos Williams, 1 Wyn Jones, 2 Ken Owens, 3 Dillon Lewis, 4 Jake Ball, 5 Adam Beard, 6 Aaron Shingler, 7 Justin Tipuric (capt), 8 Aaron Wainwright..

                                      Replacements: Elliot Dee, Rob Evans, Leon Brown, Seb Davies, Ollie Griffiths, Gareth Davies, Sam Davies, Owen Lane.

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Barbarians: November 2019 Tour:

                                      Wales: 15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Johnny McNicholl, 13 Owen Watkin, 12 Hadleigh Parkes, 11 Josh Adams, 10 Jarrod Evans, 9 Tomos Williams, 1 Wyn Jones, 2 Ken Owens, 3 Dillon Lewis, 4 Jake Ball, 5 Adam Beard, 6 Aaron Shingler, 7 Justin Tipuric (capt), 8 Aaron Wainwright..

                                      Replacements: Elliot Dee, Rob Evans, Leon Brown, Seb Davies, Ollie Griffiths, Gareth Davies, Sam Davies, Owen Lane.

                                      Good team for us.

                                      Great to see Jarrod Evans start.

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