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2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA

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    Full British & Irish Lions 2021 tour schedule:

    Saturday, July 3: British & Irish Lions v Stormers - Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town

    Wednesday, July 7: British & Irish Lions v SA 'Invitational' - Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth

    Saturday, July 10: British & Irish Lions v Sharks - Kings Park, Durban

    Wednesday, July 14: British & Irish Lions v South Africa 'A' - Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit

    Saturday, July 17: British & Irish Lions v Bulls - Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

    Saturday, July 24 (1st Test): Springboks v British & Irish Lions - FNB Stadium, Johannesburg

    Saturday, July 31 (2nd Test): Springboks v British & Irish Lions - Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town

    Saturday, August 7 (3rd Test): Springboks v British & Irish Lions - Ellis Park, Johannesburg

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      so what did the Lions do wrong?

      Too many games in Joburg or did the names confuse the schedulers?

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/119595071/warren-gatland-reveals-lions-could-face-new-zealand-mori-before-south-africa-tour

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          Only three SR teams get a game?

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            Only three SR teams get a game?

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            @antipodean Maybe a game between the British & Irish Lions v the Lions was too confusing haha.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @antipodean Maybe a game between the British & Irish Lions v the Lions was too confusing haha.

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              @Stargazer said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

              @antipodean Maybe a game between the British & Irish Lions v the Lions was too confusing haha.

              Could have been like the battle of the bay, with the winner having Lions bragging rights 🙂

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                Worked alright in 05 with the BIL vs Welly

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  so what did the Lions do wrong?

                  Too many games in Joburg or did the names confuse the schedulers?

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                  @dogmeat said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                  so what did the Lions do wrong?

                  Too many games in Joburg or did the names confuse the schedulers?

                  Bloody disappointing if you ask me.
                  Firstly only 3 tests. (Yes, I know this seems to be the new norm, but it still sucks).
                  Then Joburg gets 2 of the 3 tests. That's a real up-yours to the rest of the rugby mad country.

                  Bloemfontein, Port Elizabeth, Durban... you guys don't count apparently. Bad luck.

                  If I was SA rugby, I would definitely have scheduled one test in Bloemfontein.
                  For a British team, there is no more hostile stadium to play at in SA. Atmosphere is like the Boer War took place just yesterday. Bloody awesome 😉

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                  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                    @dogmeat said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                    so what did the Lions do wrong?

                    Too many games in Joburg or did the names confuse the schedulers?

                    Bloody disappointing if you ask me.
                    Firstly only 3 tests. (Yes, I know this seems to be the new norm, but it still sucks).
                    Then Joburg gets 2 of the 3 tests. That's a real up-yours to the rest of the rugby mad country.

                    Bloemfontein, Port Elizabeth, Durban... you guys don't count apparently. Bad luck.

                    If I was SA rugby, I would definitely have scheduled one test in Bloemfontein.
                    For a British team, there is no more hostile stadium to play at in SA. Atmosphere is like the Boer War took place just yesterday. Bloody awesome 😉

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                    @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

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                      @canefan said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                      @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

                      Look, the Bloemies crowd is pretty intense, but they're a great bunch before and after the game.
                      Tons of respect for the AB's in particular in those parts. If anyone values the rivalry, it's those Boers.

                      Every other nation will get some heat from them during the game, but nothing like the Poms or Brits will get.
                      There is not an Afrikaner that wont tell you about the concentration camps on match day...
                      Probably my favourite venue in SA to watch us play the Brits or Poms though. Shame it is not on the cards for this BIL's tour.

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                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                        @canefan said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                        @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

                        Look, the Bloemies crowd is pretty intense, but they're a great bunch before and after the game.
                        Tons of respect for the AB's in particular in those parts. If anyone values the rivalry, it's those Boers.

                        Every other nation will get some heat from them during the game, but nothing like the Poms or Brits will get.
                        There is not an Afrikaner that wont tell you about the concentration camps on match day...
                        Probably my favourite venue in SA to watch us play the Brits or Poms though. Shame it is not on the cards for this BIL's tour.

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                        @Billy-Webb I don't think he was ever in danger. But the crowd is so combative and passionate, why would you not want the Lions to have to face that?

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Billy-Webb I don't think he was ever in danger. But the crowd is so combative and passionate, why would you not want the Lions to have to face that?

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                          @canefan said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                          @Billy-Webb I don't think he was ever in danger. But the crowd is so combative and passionate, why would you not want the Lions to have to face that?

                          I ABSOLUTELY want the Lions to face that.
                          And I would want to be there for it!

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                            Interesting...

                            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

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                              Interesting...

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

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                              @Bones said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                              Interesting...

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

                              Good idea if it can happen.

                              An AB Vs the B&I Lions at Twickenham or Cardiff could be a massive money-maker.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

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                                @canefan said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                @Billy-Webb that's pretty poor. My mate went to Bloemfontein to watch a test. Said he felt quite vulnerable wearing his ABs gear

                                Its more to do with the arrogance of the Cape Crusaders supporters we have in SA.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Interesting...

                                  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

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                                  @Bones If the first B&I Lions game in SA is on 3 July 2021, that B&I Lions v ABs test would have to take place in June. Whether it's possible, will depend on the 2021 Super Rugby schedule. Assuming the SR Final will be in June, you have to wonder whether the ABs would be able to field their strongest team and have sufficient preparation time.

                                  All depends, of course, also on the COVID19 pandemic and its aftermath.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Bones If the first B&I Lions game in SA is on 3 July 2021, that B&I Lions v ABs test would have to take place in June. Whether it's possible, will depend on the 2021 Super Rugby schedule. Assuming the SR Final will be in June, you have to wonder whether the ABs would be able to field their strongest team and have sufficient preparation time.

                                    All depends, of course, also on the COVID19 pandemic and its aftermath.

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                                    @Stargazer agree.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @Bones said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      Interesting...

                                      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

                                      Good idea if it can happen.

                                      An AB Vs the B&I Lions at Twickenham or Cardiff could be a massive money-maker.

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                                      @sparky said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      @Bones said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      Interesting...

                                      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

                                      Good idea if it can happen.

                                      An AB Vs the B&I Lions at Twickenham or Cardiff could be a massive money-maker.

                                      While it might be the biggest gate and TV earner for a single game, I can't see that the amount of revenue from that one game will do much overall. Nowhere near enough. £8M maybe gate receipts plus the TV rights, less costs of staging the game. So a good few £M but with the RFU suggesting a loss of revenue of around £50M and the Aussies in dire straits by all accounts, this seems like a drop in the ocean. Also being over a year away, will it even be in time to be financially relevant?

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                                        @sparky said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                        @Bones said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                        Interesting...

                                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/lions-v-blacks-decider-proposed-18056273

                                        Good idea if it can happen.

                                        An AB Vs the B&I Lions at Twickenham or Cardiff could be a massive money-maker.

                                        While it might be the biggest gate and TV earner for a single game, I can't see that the amount of revenue from that one game will do much overall. Nowhere near enough. £8M maybe gate receipts plus the TV rights, less costs of staging the game. So a good few £M but with the RFU suggesting a loss of revenue of around £50M and the Aussies in dire straits by all accounts, this seems like a drop in the ocean. Also being over a year away, will it even be in time to be financially relevant?

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                                        @Catogrande yeah might as well not do it eh! Probably no point in working this week as the relative amount of money isn't really worth it when I look at the mortgage.

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                                          @Catogrande yeah might as well not do it eh! Probably no point in working this week as the relative amount of money isn't really worth it when I look at the mortgage.

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                                          @Bones said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                          @Catogrande yeah might as well not do it eh! Probably no point in working this week as the relative amount of money isn't really worth it when I look at the mortgage.

                                          I agree that we might as well not do it, but coming from a different perspective. If the match doesn't go ahead, we've still drawn with the ABs. I'll take that!

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