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NRL 2020

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    yes the roster is dogshit, but Kearney has been there for 3.5 years, so it's all his.

    He's been a head coach for 121 first grade games. He has won 42 of those. This should not be a shock to anyone

    He's getting an awful lot of sympathy over here, and honestly that's understandable (people loving the Warriors for what they did to get the footy back) but in all seriousness this should have happened 12 months ago.

    The recruitment at the Warriors for several years has been "did you play for the kiwis once? okay have a truck-ton of money" or even worse, trying to buy ex-Storm players (which works out for no one).

    We are never going to buy ready-made origin-level talent, so stop trying. Identify needs and fill them with solid pros, and identify local talent to provide that bit extra. We have one part of the spine sorted. I assume our hooker is cheap, so that's okay, but our halves? The money Nikorima is on is a just another bad warriors contract. We need a complete rebuild, which is a shame, because RTS is going to realise he wasted the best years of an elite level career by playing in Auckland. He deserves better.

    The new coach needs to provide an edge to all prep. The Roosters had a 5-day turnaround to a game against the other unbeaten side. They lost a player to injury because of the intensity of the defensive session they did on Thursday. I somehow doubt there has been that level of prep in the Warriors for some time (not just Kearney to be fair).

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

    yes the roster is dogshit, but Kearney has been there for 3.5 years, so it's all his.

    He's been a head coach for 121 first grade games. He has won 42 of those. This should not be a shock to anyone

    Fake news. Show me those 42...

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      @canefan said in NRL 2020:

      @Dice The Walkers built Ipswich from the ground up. That is the type of coach we need

      Unfortunately they wont be able to do that with the Warriors. Cameron George, the supposed saviour will still be there, and they'll inherit a squad. But hopefully (if they were brought in) they can do a Rennie and come into that environment, make some adjustments and have success.

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      @Nepia said in NRL 2020:

      @canefan said in NRL 2020:

      @Dice The Walkers built Ipswich from the ground up. That is the type of coach we need

      Unfortunately they wont be able to do that with the Warriors. Cameron George, the supposed saviour will still be there, and they'll inherit a squad. But hopefully (if they were brought in) they can do a Rennie and come into that environment, make some adjustments and have success.

      Apparently they intend to focus on youth development in future, so its perfect. And if Walker doesn't need expensive signings to get success that will suit the owner

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        What odds we get a coach whose main metric is making the playoffs, but not the money to go further?

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          As long as its not Graeme Lowe.
          We need someone with experience, and a record of being able to build teams, and then the ability (and succession plan) to hand over to the next guy.

          The Melbourne Demons (AFL - obviously) grabbed Paul Roos, who had taken the Sydney Swans to two Grand Finals for 1x title, and consistently played the big finals. He left Melbourne with a top-8 side after three years, they made top-4. And then injuries completely derailed their 2019 season, jury out on 2020.

          Thats what the Warriors need - a Paul Roos type.
          Wayne Bennett too old.
          Bellamy would be the man, with someone like Craig Fitzgibbon (considered to be the next good coach) as his successor... except we'd never get Bellamy.

          Is Kevin Walters an option? was supposed to get the Broncos job, but they flip-flopped and got Seibold (I think thats his name) - or is he just a QLD coach, who had a bunch of talent at his disposal until he didn't

          How about that former Knights coach Michael Hagan? with Stacey Jones to be the successor in three years.

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            I'm starting to be convinced that no league journos in Australia actually watch the Warriors, and haven't in about 10 years.

            Paul Kent had a rant last night about the direction, and look at this fucking quote

            “The Warriors are a side that don’t defend mistakes. So they play great football and pop a pass, but they don’t handle adversity well and that’s the problem."

            He's right about adversity, but playing great football? When was the last time that was the case? It's the same things over and over. The big Warriors forwards. And playing great ad-lib football. Neither have been true for fucking years.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              I'm starting to be convinced that no league journos in Australia actually watch the Warriors, and haven't in about 10 years.

              Paul Kent had a rant last night about the direction, and look at this fucking quote

              “The Warriors are a side that don’t defend mistakes. So they play great football and pop a pass, but they don’t handle adversity well and that’s the problem."

              He's right about adversity, but playing great football? When was the last time that was the case? It's the same things over and over. The big Warriors forwards. And playing great ad-lib football. Neither have been true for fucking years.

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              @mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

              I'm starting to be convinced that no league journos in Australia actually watch the Warriors, and haven't in about 10 years.

              Paul Kent had a rant last night about the direction, and look at this fucking quote

              “The Warriors are a side that don’t defend mistakes. So they play great football and pop a pass, but they don’t handle adversity well and that’s the problem."

              He's right about adversity, but playing great football? When was the last time that was the case? It's the same things over and over. The big Warriors forwards. And playing great ad-lib football. Neither have been true for fucking years.

              Probably back when Ali Lauatiti, Clinton Toopi and Kevin Campion were all running round at the same time.

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                So the Aussie media are trying to link us to Wayne Bennett. Fuck that. If we hire that roster wrecking dinosaur i am out. That would be the last straw.

                His assistant at Souths, the guy earmarked to take over, would be a fucking good shout. He started up here with the Pride, and won us the national club comp, by all accounts he's an absolute gun.

                How the fuck does a 71-year old who is 15 years out of date still get earmarked for every single fucking job in the NRL? Clubs are so stupid.

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                • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                  and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!

                  Had to go. Years too late imo.

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                  @Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:

                  and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!

                  Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".

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                    @Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:

                    and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!

                    Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".

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                    @Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

                    @Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:

                    and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!

                    Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".

                    he's off to be a scaffie on the Gold Coast

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

                      @Paekakboyz said in NRL 2020:

                      and a 14 days quarantine to mull it over if he heads back to NZ anytime soon!

                      Kearney's family remained in Qld while he coached the Warriors so no need to return "home".

                      he's off to be a scaffie on the Gold Coast

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                      @mariner4life

                      He'll do OK.

                      The Warriors' shock axing of coach Stephen Kearney will come at a massive financial cost.
                      
                      The Daily Telegraph in Sydney has reported the Auckland-based NRL club might have to fork out $2 million to pay-out Kearney, who had more than two years remaining on his contract, though Stuff understands the figure could be closer to $1.6 million.
                      
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                        so between $50,000 and $62,500 per win achieved, just to not coach us any more.

                        I need to suck at my job harder

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                          And in a continuation of my "why the fuck does Wayne Bennett still get jobs" campaign

                          With a fucking good roster, he has the Bunnies at a super impressive 3-4.

                          Those wins? Us, the Gold Coast, and Cronulla. 3 of the probably bottom four.

                          And then the surly old bastard comes out for an 88-word, 80-second press conference.

                          "Super Coach" my ass

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                            The Warriors paying so much for Kearney is just so Warriors.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              so between $50,000 and $62,500 per win achieved, just to not coach us any more.

                              I need to suck at my job harder

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                              @mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

                              so between $50,000 and $62,500 per win achieved, just to not coach us any more.

                              I need to suck at my job harder

                              They're paying him somewhere around $800K per year? To do a job with, to be very harsh, a minuscule chance of success? Toughest part of the job is fronting up once a week to explain why you suck at your job and the cliched scripts for that are readily available.

                              No wonder Geoff Toovey has put put his hand up (though it might be better described as hand out) for the job.

                              $800K? Come on! That's ridiculous!

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                                Time to get an up and coming coach. These guys are overpaid and underdeliver. Ivan didn't have first team experience before he came to us did he? These Walker brothers, or someone like them, are the go. Hungry, will do more with less, and cheaper

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                                  First 50/50 call goes against the Warriors.

                                  I thought he still had a finger on it.

                                  Ambitious run down the left from the Storm and we get em.

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                                    Exposed when RTS comes into the line as a 5th tackle playmaker.

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                                      Warriors look good but the kicking option to go high is not the one

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                                        Hiku seemed to be in no mans land there. Easy overlap

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                                        • raznomoreR raznomore

                                          Warriors look good but the kicking option to go high is not the one

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                                          @raznomore said in NRL 2020:

                                          Warriors look good but the kicking option to go high is not the one

                                          Poor coaching.

                                          Too early?

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