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Magpies 2020

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    If we have a spot for a midfielder next season (not sure they'll re-sign McNicol), I hope they'll have a good look at Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u. I like what I've seen from him thus far for Harbour. Still a rookie at this level, of course, so plenty to learn and improve.

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    @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

    If we have a spot for a midfielder next season (not sure they'll re-sign McNicol), I hope they'll have a good look at Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u. I like what I've seen from him thus far for Harbour. Still a rookie at this level, of course, so plenty to learn and improve.

    Maybe Ben Lewis will have a big club season and step up to rep level. There was also a big centre playing for Pirates who was pretty raw but had size and some skills. Too many beers celebrating retaining the shield and can't remember his name

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      @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

      If we have a spot for a midfielder next season (not sure they'll re-sign McNicol), I hope they'll have a good look at Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u. I like what I've seen from him thus far for Harbour. Still a rookie at this level, of course, so plenty to learn and improve.

      Maybe Ben Lewis will have a big club season and step up to rep level. There was also a big centre playing for Pirates who was pretty raw but had size and some skills. Too many beers celebrating retaining the shield and can't remember his name

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      @Stockcar86 The Pirates centre, do you mean Al Momoisea?

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        @Stockcar86 The Pirates centre, do you mean Al Momoisea?

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        @Stargazer No, nor Hayden Hann. I didn't see any Pirates games this year, but he played inside centre I think last year for Pirates. Young kid just out of school, about 6ft 2 or 3. Made a few mistakes but had silky skills too.

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          Al Momoisea was the usual Pirates centre, Ben Lewis was the usual wing.

          I think Lewis may have been the top try-scorer in the Maddison Trophy? He was certainly leading at one point with seven.

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            The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

            Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
            People's Choice: Ash Dixon
            Best Forward: Devan Flanders
            Best Back: Folau Fakatava
            Player's Player: Devan Flanders
            Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

              Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
              People's Choice: Ash Dixon
              Best Forward: Devan Flanders
              Best Back: Folau Fakatava
              Player's Player: Devan Flanders
              Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

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              @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

              The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

              Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
              People's Choice: Ash Dixon
              Best Forward: Devan Flanders
              Best Back: Folau Fakatava
              Player's Player: Devan Flanders
              Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

              Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

                Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
                People's Choice: Ash Dixon
                Best Forward: Devan Flanders
                Best Back: Folau Fakatava
                Player's Player: Devan Flanders
                Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

                Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

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                @Nepia said in Magpies 2020:

                @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

                Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
                People's Choice: Ash Dixon
                Best Forward: Devan Flanders
                Best Back: Folau Fakatava
                Player's Player: Devan Flanders
                Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

                Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

                @Nepia be thankful they did not give it to Baker...

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                • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                  @Nepia said in Magpies 2020:

                  @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                  The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

                  Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
                  People's Choice: Ash Dixon
                  Best Forward: Devan Flanders
                  Best Back: Folau Fakatava
                  Player's Player: Devan Flanders
                  Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

                  Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

                  @Nepia be thankful they did not give it to Baker...

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                  Magpie_in_aus
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                  @Stockcar86 said in Magpies 2020:

                  @Nepia said in Magpies 2020:

                  @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                  The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

                  Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
                  People's Choice: Ash Dixon
                  Best Forward: Devan Flanders
                  Best Back: Folau Fakatava
                  Player's Player: Devan Flanders
                  Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

                  Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

                  @Nepia be thankful they did not give it to Baker...

                  The already gave Baker playing time that's more than enough.

                  Agree with player of the year. I think if there was a most valuable player which I would usually say is one in the same. I would 100% give it to Ash. Has been amazing as a player but also as a captain/leader.

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                  • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                    @Stockcar86 said in Magpies 2020:

                    @Nepia said in Magpies 2020:

                    @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                    The 2020 Magpies awards recipients:

                    Player of the Year: Devan Flanders
                    People's Choice: Ash Dixon
                    Best Forward: Devan Flanders
                    Best Back: Folau Fakatava
                    Player's Player: Devan Flanders
                    Rookie of the Year: Lolagi Visina

                    Can't really argue with any of those although the definition of rookie is somewhat stretched.

                    @Nepia be thankful they did not give it to Baker...

                    The already gave Baker playing time that's more than enough.

                    Agree with player of the year. I think if there was a most valuable player which I would usually say is one in the same. I would 100% give it to Ash. Has been amazing as a player but also as a captain/leader.

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                    Does jonah lowe got canes contract for 2021

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                      What a season, what a team, and what a leader. Things didn't look good earlier on in the season, with the loss to Southland, but as Tom Parsons said that was the kick in the arse they needed. After that this team just grew, and to be honest have become one of the best in the country. Mark Ozich, and Josh Symes quickly realized that with the campaign being a long one, they needed depth in critical positions, and this is exactly what they built up. The players they bought in all contributed bloody well, and made competition within the squad for starting spots very competitive. Seriously how many teams can afford to have players like Gareth Evans, Isia Walker Leaware, Calab Makene, on there bench, and players like Danny Toala, and Bryn Evans left out all together. Of course there were flat patches such as the hiding from North Harbour, but that was always going to happen given the length and schedule of the season. Mark Ozich is a very clever coach, and clearly has the ability to turn any team he coaches into a formidable side. Hastings Boys High, and now Hawkes Bay are proof of that. This team has been rewarded for there efforts, with the Ranfurly Shield locked away, and now the Championship as well. Individual players have been rewarded with New Zealand Maori and Moana Pasifica selection, and to be honest more should follow with Super Rugby selection, Tom Parsons, and Joe Apikitoa are two examples of this. With victories over Counties Manakau, Otago, Manawatu, Wellington, Canterbury, Taranaki twice, Northland twice, this has been a season to remember. No doubt the squad will be bolstered even further next year, and course some may move on, and in the professional era that's the way it is, but all you can say is well done Hawkes Bay, your a bloody good side and have earnt all the rewards that have come your way. Oh and Ash when you do retire, and hopefully that won't be any time soon,write a book. I'd guarantee it would be a best seller in Hawkes Bay.

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                        What a season, what a team, and what a leader. Things didn't look good earlier on in the season, with the loss to Southland, but as Tom Parsons said that was the kick in the arse they needed. After that this team just grew, and to be honest have become one of the best in the country. Mark Ozich, and Josh Symes quickly realized that with the campaign being a long one, they needed depth in critical positions, and this is exactly what they built up. The players they bought in all contributed bloody well, and made competition within the squad for starting spots very competitive. Seriously how many teams can afford to have players like Gareth Evans, Isia Walker Leaware, Calab Makene, on there bench, and players like Danny Toala, and Bryn Evans left out all together. Of course there were flat patches such as the hiding from North Harbour, but that was always going to happen given the length and schedule of the season. Mark Ozich is a very clever coach, and clearly has the ability to turn any team he coaches into a formidable side. Hastings Boys High, and now Hawkes Bay are proof of that. This team has been rewarded for there efforts, with the Ranfurly Shield locked away, and now the Championship as well. Individual players have been rewarded with New Zealand Maori and Moana Pasifica selection, and to be honest more should follow with Super Rugby selection, Tom Parsons, and Joe Apikitoa are two examples of this. With victories over Counties Manakau, Otago, Manawatu, Wellington, Canterbury, Taranaki twice, Northland twice, this has been a season to remember. No doubt the squad will be bolstered even further next year, and course some may move on, and in the professional era that's the way it is, but all you can say is well done Hawkes Bay, your a bloody good side and have earnt all the rewards that have come your way. Oh and Ash when you do retire, and hopefully that won't be any time soon,write a book. I'd guarantee it would be a best seller in Hawkes Bay.

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                        @Billsy111 HB were a different side when Ash was playing, you could have the same 14 players with another hooker and I think you arent near as good; but slot Ash in there, and it's like the players become better because of him, they want to be better because he is there, the ultimate leader who gets the best out of his team.

                        Unlucky timing to have never picked up a Black jersey.

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                          @Billsy111 HB were a different side when Ash was playing, you could have the same 14 players with another hooker and I think you arent near as good; but slot Ash in there, and it's like the players become better because of him, they want to be better because he is there, the ultimate leader who gets the best out of his team.

                          Unlucky timing to have never picked up a Black jersey.

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                          @taniwharugby Totally agree

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                            Magpies 2020 Season highlights.

                            https://fb.watch/25aR7ABCrk/

                            Here's another link. I don't seem to be able to embed this video.

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                              https://www.instagram.com/p/CIPJCMgFHhG/

                              devanflanders: Today is the day I say goodbye to my best mate, he has been a crowd favourite and everyone loves him. But I have had enough of him so I have to let him go. Goodbye crooked nose, you will not be missed ๐Ÿ’”

                              Hereโ€™s to breathing properly, cheeeheeee ๐Ÿ˜‹

                              Before and after photos coming soon

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                                2021 Super Rugby contracts:

                                Hurricanes (6):
                                Gareth Evans
                                Devan Flanders
                                Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                Danny Toala
                                Lolagi Visinia
                                Isaia Walker-Leawere

                                Chiefs (2):
                                Jonah Lowe
                                Brad Weber

                                Highlanders (4):
                                Ash Dixon (co-captain)
                                Bryn Evans
                                Folau Fakatava
                                Marino Mikaele-Tu'u

                                Blues and Crusaders: 0

                                All Blacks sevens:
                                Kurt Baker
                                Ollie Sapsford

                                Wait and see whether competing at the Ignite 7s leads to the step up to a sevens contract:
                                Caleb Makene
                                (Anzelo Tuitavuki and Lattrell Smiler-Ah Kiong also selected for Ignite 7s)

                                Unlucky to miss out (age between brackets):
                                Lincoln McClutchie (21)
                                Kianu Kereru-Symes (21)
                                Geoff Cridge (25)
                                Tom Parsons (30, situation probably similar to Fomai and Ili - see below)
                                Sam McNicol (25 - could be explained by the number and severity of his injuries)
                                Neria Fomai and Stacey Ili (respectively, 28 and 29 years old, so age may play a part; their situation is different from Bryn Evans, who already has plenty of experience at a higher level)

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                                  Damn, the Canes actually have the most Magpies again this year.

                                  Also, funny they swapped our best wing this year for our second best wing.

                                  McClutchie shafted again but hey don't worry Simon Hickey will be a champion for the Canes.

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                                    Damn, the Canes actually have the most Magpies again this year.

                                    Also, funny they swapped our best wing this year for our second best wing.

                                    McClutchie shafted again but hey don't worry Simon Hickey will be a champion for the Canes.

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                                    @Nepia I wonder what's the case:

                                    • did Lowe sign with the Chiefs because the Canes didn't want to re-sign him; or
                                    • did the Canes sign JSavea/Visinia, because Lowe decided to move to the Chiefs?
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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Nepia I wonder what's the case:

                                      • did Lowe sign with the Chiefs because the Canes didn't want to re-sign him; or
                                      • did the Canes sign JSavea/Visinia, because Lowe decided to move to the Chiefs?
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                                      For magpies next year l would love to see them lure kini naholo back

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                                        For magpies next year l would love to see them lure kini naholo back

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                                        @frazzerbazzer Tbh, I'm not really sold on him and he'd hardly get game time anyway. He'd probably only play in case of multiple injuries. Speaking of injuries, Kini seems to be very injury prone. It would be a huge risk signing him. Maybe, if he plays himself into contention via club rugby, but I wouldn't be in favour of signing him without that.

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                                          Forget Kini - bring back Zarn Sullivan for fullback

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