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  • HigginsH Higgins

    @mikey07 I have been up home for the last week (and probably need to be up here for a few more) so have missed out on things like the above. It seems like the MSP players have not learnt a single thing from the disgusting 7s incident (that has resulted in a three year ban won by MSP from all 7s in Wgtn) against Petone last year.

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    @higgins Interesting isn’t especially how it all seems to be a sweep it under the carpet mentality.

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      @higgins Interesting isn’t especially how it all seems to be a sweep it under the carpet mentality.

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      @mikey07 that doesn’t surprise me one bit. The decision makers at Wellington Rugby have always, and will continue to be a bunch of tugboats.

      That’s disgusting behaviour if it’s Whitman but I will refrain from judging him until he’s proven guilty and all that.

      MSP need to sort their shit out.

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        @mikey07 that doesn’t surprise me one bit. The decision makers at Wellington Rugby have always, and will continue to be a bunch of tugboats.

        That’s disgusting behaviour if it’s Whitman but I will refrain from judging him until he’s proven guilty and all that.

        MSP need to sort their shit out.

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        @canes4life Of course but If it was him would be a nice reward getting a NPC contract…

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          @canes4life Of course but If it was him would be a nice reward getting a NPC contract…

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          @mikey07 they did the same with Losi Filipo. Do they ever learn?

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            @mikey07 they did the same with Losi Filipo. Do they ever learn?

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            @canes4life and to an extent Julian Savea

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              @canes4life and to an extent Julian Savea

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              @mikey07 I had a good source that the Julian situation was a crock of shit. I won’t go into details but I did feel for him at the time when he faced the media like he had to.

              But the Filipo one was utterly thuggish.

              Also Ben-Nicholas had a discretion in public, which is why he was never picked for the Canes apparently.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @mikey07 that doesn’t surprise me one bit. The decision makers at Wellington Rugby have always, and will continue to be a bunch of tugboats.

                That’s disgusting behaviour if it’s Whitman but I will refrain from judging him until he’s proven guilty and all that.

                MSP need to sort their shit out.

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                @canes4life K Whitman was named in the First half lineup for Wellington in their match up at Cooks Gardens against Taranaki this afternoon so it probably wouldn't be him as it would be very hypocritical of the Wellington RFU to permit anyone suspected of planting their boot into the head of another player to represent them. However being away from the rumour mill I have not heard any whispers (unlike those about a former WRFU Lions rep still turning up for Tawa each week) of who said player was. At least the WRFU appears to have washed their hands of that particular thug.

                On another tack, apparently the incident at Wellington College (OBU/MSP) appears to have been deemed to have never occurred given the lack of punitive action taken against those that apparently were "not involved" in an incident that looks like it has been deemed to be a "racing incident". For something that caused an extensive/expensive WRFU investigation (and there were massive legal costs from what I have heard - QCs involved no less!) one wonders whether it was a beat up (not the best description in hindsight!) designed to give realistic training to prospective Judicial Sub Committee members given nothing happened to warrant the hearing.................

                In another direction one of the participants in the MSP v Petone 7s fracas has been arrested and charged.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/125733098/wellington-club-rugby-player-charged-with-wounding-opponent-with-intent-to-cause-grievous-bodily-harm

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  @canes4life K Whitman was named in the First half lineup for Wellington in their match up at Cooks Gardens against Taranaki this afternoon so it probably wouldn't be him as it would be very hypocritical of the Wellington RFU to permit anyone suspected of planting their boot into the head of another player to represent them. However being away from the rumour mill I have not heard any whispers (unlike those about a former WRFU Lions rep still turning up for Tawa each week) of who said player was. At least the WRFU appears to have washed their hands of that particular thug.

                  On another tack, apparently the incident at Wellington College (OBU/MSP) appears to have been deemed to have never occurred given the lack of punitive action taken against those that apparently were "not involved" in an incident that looks like it has been deemed to be a "racing incident". For something that caused an extensive/expensive WRFU investigation (and there were massive legal costs from what I have heard - QCs involved no less!) one wonders whether it was a beat up (not the best description in hindsight!) designed to give realistic training to prospective Judicial Sub Committee members given nothing happened to warrant the hearing.................

                  In another direction one of the participants in the MSP v Petone 7s fracas has been arrested and charged.
                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/125733098/wellington-club-rugby-player-charged-with-wounding-opponent-with-intent-to-cause-grievous-bodily-harm

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                    @bovidae said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                    @mikedogz Out of interest, do Putaruru still play in blue and red, i.e., the same colours as Te Rapa?

                    Bit late back to this thread.

                    Confusing as fuck. Just had to talk a lot and really know your team mates.

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                    @booboo said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                    @bovidae said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                    @mikedogz Out of interest, do Putaruru still play in blue and red, i.e., the same colours as Te Rapa?

                    Bit late back to this thread.

                    Confusing as fuck. Just had to talk a lot and really know your team mates.

                    Just thinking about this.

                    I think we wore white shorts, as opposed to their blue.

                    "White" of course was subjective on a Waikato club field in the middle of winter after 5 minutes or so.

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                      @mikey07 said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                      @higgins Actually I made a mistake it’s wasn’t W...... instead midfield back Ofa Siale was the only player not playing on the 8th May, your comment actually made me go back and check.

                      IMO this is the reason why we - on this public forum - should refrain from posting names until it's proven that a player has actually done it, that is, there is a finding of a judge/court/disciplinary panel/union finding a player guilty of the offence(s) in question. Stick to private messages if you wish to discuss a specific player, please.

                      I also disagree with this conclusion:

                      @mikey07 said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                      @Higgins another MSP player getting away with it

                      because of this:

                      “The decision was not exoneration of the player against whom the complaint was lodged but rather acknowledgement the matter has simply not been heard as the ‘best evidence’ had not been presented.”

                      In other words, the evidence was insufficient.
                      Until they have sufficient evidence, Wellington Rugby can't do a thing. That's not "sweeping it under the carpet".

                      Geez, I can't believe I'm defending Wellington Rugby. I'm going to take a shower ...

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @booboo said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                        @bovidae said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                        @mikedogz Out of interest, do Putaruru still play in blue and red, i.e., the same colours as Te Rapa?

                        Bit late back to this thread.

                        Confusing as fuck. Just had to talk a lot and really know your team mates.

                        Just thinking about this.

                        I think we wore white shorts, as opposed to their blue.

                        "White" of course was subjective on a Waikato club field in the middle of winter after 5 minutes or so.

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                        @booboo Te Rapa wore white shorts this year.

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                        • mikedogzM mikedogz

                          @booboo Te Rapa wore white shorts this year.

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                          @mikedogz said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                          @booboo Te Rapa wore white shorts this year.

                          Yeah My lived experience was 20 (mumble) years ago...

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                            @mikey07 said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                            @higgins Actually I made a mistake it’s wasn’t W...... instead midfield back Ofa Siale was the only player not playing on the 8th May, your comment actually made me go back and check.

                            IMO this is the reason why we - on this public forum - should refrain from posting names until it's proven that a player has actually done it, that is, there is a finding of a judge/court/disciplinary panel/union finding a player guilty of the offence(s) in question. Stick to private messages if you wish to discuss a specific player, please.

                            I also disagree with this conclusion:

                            @mikey07 said in NZ Club rugby (general):

                            @Higgins another MSP player getting away with it

                            because of this:

                            “The decision was not exoneration of the player against whom the complaint was lodged but rather acknowledgement the matter has simply not been heard as the ‘best evidence’ had not been presented.”

                            In other words, the evidence was insufficient.
                            Until they have sufficient evidence, Wellington Rugby can't do a thing. That's not "sweeping it under the carpet".

                            Geez, I can't believe I'm defending Wellington Rugby. I'm going to take a shower ...

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                            @stargazer Post deleted and Lesson learnt will be more careful in future.

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                              Here is someone not prepared to compromise on their principles
                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/125875904/broadcaster-boycotts-wellington-premier-rugby-final-over-onfield-incidents

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                                Here is someone not prepared to compromise on their principles
                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/125875904/broadcaster-boycotts-wellington-premier-rugby-final-over-onfield-incidents

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                                @higgins Bet me too it, very interesting

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                                  He would have had to lose a decent amount of weight.

                                  Former All Black and All Blacks Sevens representative Scott Waldrom got back into regular rugby this year playing in the NZ Barbarians Under-85kg Club Cup competition and will be looking to advance to the national quarterfinals next game.
                                  He is playing for his Avalon club who need to beat the winner of the Wellington Football Club-Marist St Pats Reds game to qualify to play an Auckland side in the quarters.

                                  https://www.allblacks.com/news/waldrom-makes-comeback-in-under-85kg-rugby/

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                                    Still getting through watching some grassroots episodes, now olympics finished.

                                    East Coast final was pretty epic in the wild weather with a not quite Don Clarke 1961 goal kick to win it on the final whistle.

                                    Uawa v TVC.

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                                      Here is someone suggesting changes need to be made before it is too late
                                      https://times-age.co.nz/take-the-blinkers-off/

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                                        https://twitter.com/TaranakiRugby/status/1428140498875666434

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                                          hell of a flex from southern!

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