'Super Rugby' 2021
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its also a lot more common to go to the pub to watch sport in aus than i ever experienced at home, no idea how you track those people
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i didn't actually realise Kayo was Foxtels, i just use the foxtel Go App, whats the difference?
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i didn't actually realise Kayo was Foxtels, i just use the foxtel Go App, whats the difference?
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
i didn't actually realise Kayo was Foxtels, i just use the foxtel Go App, whats the difference?
Kayo is just sport
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@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@yourmatenate said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@antipodean
Canberra crowds have been limited to 1500. They’ll be raised to 3k for this Friday’s match against the Force.Jeez that makes those viewer numbers look even worse.
Only 45k people could be bothered watching two of the top teams at the ground and at home combined!It's SR, there's plenty of people still playing and attending club games on the weekend.
Based on nothing at all I expect the figures would be better if it had a FTA element. But then there'd be less money in the game.
I guess it also doesn’t take into account the fact that multiple people could be watching a single TV so would likely be way off that number.
I definitely agree with your FTA point. I think it would make a huge difference having super rugby on FTA in Aust. Most other sports have regular games on over the weekend.
There's about a 30% bump of people watch via streaming (equivalent of skygo) which those viewing numbers don't include
@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
There's about a 30% bump of people watch via streaming (equivalent of skygo) which those viewing numbers don't include
It is already more than that. Big box pay tv (i.e. Foxtel) is not long for this world as a significant player. They've had to cannibalise their old business model to even stay in the game.
Subsequently for Rugby Australia—already at a low point—any near-term domestic tv deal for next year will be going south, not north.
That means (a) stripping out costs; and (b) looking to alternate funding sources. In terms of the latter, private equity will need to be part of that.
Surprisingly, given rugby is such a second-rate sport in Aus, there are actually interested parties with money out there.
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@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
There's about a 30% bump of people watch via streaming (equivalent of skygo) which those viewing numbers don't include
It is already more than that. Big box pay tv (i.e. Foxtel) is not long for this world as a significant player. They've had to cannibalise their old business model to even stay in the game.
Subsequently for Rugby Australia—already at a low point—any near-term domestic tv deal for next year will be going south, not north.
That means (a) stripping out costs; and (b) looking to alternate funding sources. In terms of the latter, private equity will need to be part of that.
Surprisingly, given rugby is such a second-rate sport in Aus, there are actually interested parties with money out there.
@Kiap said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
There's about a 30% bump of people watch via streaming (equivalent of skygo) which those viewing numbers don't include
It is already more than that. Big box pay tv (i.e. Foxtel) is not long for this world as a significant player. They've had to cannibalise their old business model to even stay in the game.
Subsequently for Rugby Australia—already at a low point—any near-term domestic tv deal for next year will be going south, not north.
That means (a) stripping out costs; and (b) looking to alternate funding sources. In terms of the latter, private equity will need to be part of that.
Surprisingly, given rugby is such a second-rate sport in Aus, there are actually interested parties with money out there.
Because it has potential with appropriate management and a little investment.
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I'm not criticizing SA for moving into Pro 14 or whatever number it is. It is the logical move if can't go solo.
But, I don't envy them.
Conferences, inter-hemisphere , plenty of the problems Super Rugby had - except for timezones.
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I'm not criticizing SA for moving into Pro 14 or whatever number it is. It is the logical move if can't go solo.
But, I don't envy them.
Conferences, inter-hemisphere , plenty of the problems Super Rugby had - except for timezones.
@Rapido the Kings struggling financially
https://albertonrecord.co.za/277000/southern-kings-suspend-playing-activities-for-2020-2/
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@Rapido the Kings struggling financially
https://albertonrecord.co.za/277000/southern-kings-suspend-playing-activities-for-2020-2/
@taniwharugby said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Rapido the Kings struggling financially
https://albertonrecord.co.za/277000/southern-kings-suspend-playing-activities-for-2020-2/
They’re getting booted out, replaced by the Super teams.
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@shark said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Tim that jersey is a good enough reason not to miss the South African teams.
Are you one of these Zac Snyder dark DCEU fluffers?
@Nepia said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@shark said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Tim that jersey is a good enough reason not to miss the South African teams.
Are you one of these Zac Snyder dark DCEU fluffers?
Again, in English?
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@taniwharugby said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Rapido the Kings struggling financially
https://albertonrecord.co.za/277000/southern-kings-suspend-playing-activities-for-2020-2/
They’re getting booted out, replaced by the Super teams.
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I'm not criticizing SA for moving into Pro 14 or whatever number it is. It is the logical move if can't go solo.
But, I don't envy them.
Conferences, inter-hemisphere , plenty of the problems Super Rugby had - except for timezones.
@Rapido said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
I'm not criticizing SA for moving into Pro 14 or whatever number it is. It is the logical move if can't go solo.
But, I don't envy them.
Conferences, inter-hemisphere , plenty of the problems Super Rugby had - except for timezones.
Yep. Throw in expansion, diluting the product and you have the "Average 18" all over again. At least this time the expansion teams are from a different country, but that didn't really go well for the Sunwolves. They could ditch a couple of weaker teams too, but again that wasn't very popular with some.
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@gt12 not how the article reads though
@taniwharugby said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@gt12 not how the article reads though
You think I read the article?
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@taniwharugby said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@gt12 not how the article reads though
You think I read the article?
@gt12 well I'm an optimist, if that's really the right term for not caring if someone clicks a link to an article you don't really care about
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This is a direction I would like to see
Have a local competition (like super rugby Aotearoa) to kick the year off (preferable starting in March) but then have a cross over games.
Options are maybe a pool knockout type competition with various teams like
-Including NZ Aust PI and two Japanese teams (similar time zones)
-Add in SA and or the Celtic nations- look at a global competition say once every 4 years, Say 48 teams (or more) with 12 pools of 4 teams. Home and away and the winners plus 4 advance to a knockout final. Or whatever is possible, unsure if the UK and France teams would be up for this but image a final with the Blues verse Saracens for example
“There's probably more momentum and more flexibility in the system now because of Covid than there ever has been. My sense is there is a real possibility of something globally happening in the next two or three years, which could be replicable every two to four years after,” he said.
“Covid will pass, and when Covid passes and borders open again, and they will open again and trade will pick up again and people will want to connect and do business. I think there is a real opportunity for a tight, well-run localised comps, feeding into European style championships, and then the next natural step is something global.”
