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'Super Rugby' 2021

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    mikey07
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    #1417

    Well at least we have something certain will be very interesting like mentioned before of how big the squads are.

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      #1418

      Haha well we knew this was coming.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300131185/rugby-australia-pans-nz-rugby-super-vision-after-wallabies-defy-depth-critics

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        How many Force players were on the field on Sunday?

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          pukunui
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          Shit, imagine if they had won the game!

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            Kiwiwomble
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            im over it, give them what they want, if what NZR say is correct in that SRA isn't sustainable long term, we might need to swallow our pride, the reality for the Landers for example is we very rarely thrash anyone and for teams as good as the Saders...they get to blood some young guys against the Force

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              Machpants
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              #1422

              Yeah the common sense way is 5+5 next year, introduce a couple more next year. RA is totally in the right, NZR have been utter cockwombles. Yes Ozzie rugby ain't great, but it is better than the outer mongolian sun goliaths

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                Yeah the common sense way is 5+5 next year, introduce a couple more next year. RA is totally in the right, NZR have been utter cockwombles. Yes Ozzie rugby ain't great, but it is better than the outer mongolian sun goliaths

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                pukunui
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                #1423

                @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                Yeah the common sense way is 5+5 next year, introduce a couple more next year. RA is totally in the right, NZR have been utter cockwombles. Yes Ozzie rugby ain't great, but it is better than the outer mongolian sun goliaths

                Yep, the NZRU have totally lost the plot.
                8 team trans Ta$man was a decent idea but the Aussies were never going to go for it.
                10 team trans Ta$man was slightly less desirable but would work pretty well.
                This new expansion comp idea is just nuts. Especially considering one of the main contenders to join is the fucking force! Who were one of the main reasons a 10 team comp wasn’t desirable. WTF.

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                • pukunuiP pukunui

                  @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  Yeah the common sense way is 5+5 next year, introduce a couple more next year. RA is totally in the right, NZR have been utter cockwombles. Yes Ozzie rugby ain't great, but it is better than the outer mongolian sun goliaths

                  Yep, the NZRU have totally lost the plot.
                  8 team trans Ta$man was a decent idea but the Aussies were never going to go for it.
                  10 team trans Ta$man was slightly less desirable but would work pretty well.
                  This new expansion comp idea is just nuts. Especially considering one of the main contenders to join is the fucking force! Who were one of the main reasons a 10 team comp wasn’t desirable. WTF.

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                  @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  This new expansion comp idea is just nuts. Especially considering one of the main contenders to join is the fucking force! Who were one of the main reasons a 10 team comp wasn’t desirable. WTF.

                  NZR: see, I've got this backup girl...

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                  • pukunuiP pukunui

                    @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    Yeah the common sense way is 5+5 next year, introduce a couple more next year. RA is totally in the right, NZR have been utter cockwombles. Yes Ozzie rugby ain't great, but it is better than the outer mongolian sun goliaths

                    Yep, the NZRU have totally lost the plot.
                    8 team trans Ta$man was a decent idea but the Aussies were never going to go for it.
                    10 team trans Ta$man was slightly less desirable but would work pretty well.
                    This new expansion comp idea is just nuts. Especially considering one of the main contenders to join is the fucking force! Who were one of the main reasons a 10 team comp wasn’t desirable. WTF.

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                    Chris B.
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                    #1425

                    @pukunui Who is coming up with these fucking fantasies?

                    Bring back Steve Tew!

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                      #1426

                      "Wallabies defy depth critics"

                      How? We knew they had 23 good players, but probably not 150+.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        "Wallabies defy depth critics"

                        How? We knew they had 23 good players, but probably not 150+.

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                        Derpus
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                        #1427

                        @Snowy not saying it's 'fixed' but 3 debutants and a bunch on 1 or so caps fronted up - most of them young. Plenty of other youngsters in the wings. What was it, 2 starting fifteen players retained from last year?

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                          @Snowy not saying it's 'fixed' but 3 debutants and a bunch on 1 or so caps fronted up - most of them young. Plenty of other youngsters in the wings. What was it, 2 starting fifteen players retained from last year?

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                          nzzp
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                          #1428

                          @Derpus NZ had three debutants too - and our most experienced back was Rieko with 29 caps!

                          At times the forward alignment was all over the shop, as the system bedded in. I think we've got a lot of upside once the team plays together; hopefully far more than the Wobs who played really well

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                            @Snowy not saying it's 'fixed' but 3 debutants and a bunch on 1 or so caps fronted up - most of them young. Plenty of other youngsters in the wings. What was it, 2 starting fifteen players retained from last year?

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                            Snowy
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                            @Derpus Something like that.

                            Certainly aquited themselves well. Having a decent coach sure helps too.

                            Still not sure about the "depth" headline though. A full super season and a few internationals might show some cracks - but it probably would for us too.

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                              @Derpus Something like that.

                              Certainly aquited themselves well. Having a decent coach sure helps too.

                              Still not sure about the "depth" headline though. A full super season and a few internationals might show some cracks - but it probably would for us too.

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                              @Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              Still not sure about the "depth" headline though. A full super season and a few internationals might show some cracks - but it probably would for us too.

                              IF (and it's a big if) SA rock up for the Rugby Championship, it's going to stress the players bigtime. 6 big games in a row - load management will be critical to not get knocked over at the end of the tourney.

                              I can see us losing to Argentina ... there's an argument for them to play their B side for the first few weeks, and then bring their best players off the bench and start them towards the end of the comp...

                              EDIT: for clarification, I can see the potential for us to play poorly at the end of the comp, and a fresher/more motivated side could get up on us

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                                @Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                Still not sure about the "depth" headline though. A full super season and a few internationals might show some cracks - but it probably would for us too.

                                IF (and it's a big if) SA rock up for the Rugby Championship, it's going to stress the players bigtime. 6 big games in a row - load management will be critical to not get knocked over at the end of the tourney.

                                I can see us losing to Argentina ... there's an argument for them to play their B side for the first few weeks, and then bring their best players off the bench and start them towards the end of the comp...

                                EDIT: for clarification, I can see the potential for us to play poorly at the end of the comp, and a fresher/more motivated side could get up on us

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                                Machpants
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                                #1431

                                @nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @Snowy said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                Still not sure about the "depth" headline though. A full super season and a few internationals might show some cracks - but it probably would for us too.

                                IF (and it's a big if) SA rock up for the Rugby Championship, it's going to stress the players bigtime. 6 big games in a row - load management will be critical to not get knocked over at the end of the tourney.

                                I can see us losing to Argentina ... there's an argument for them to play their B side for the first few weeks, and then bring their best players off the bench and start them towards the end of the comp...

                                I dunno how many of their top players are even in Oz, I've not seen a squad list that are actually there and available

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  #1432

                                  https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1316569569952034816

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1316569569952034816

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                                    Machpants
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                                    @KiwiMurph can't really see that as forcing since NZR announced that was one of their preferred options prior to the Xmas quarantine fiasco

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                                      https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1316569569952034816

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                                      nzzp
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                                      #1434

                                      @KiwiMurph a 5+5 comp is miles better than 5 + Force + Pacific RagTag + Ilford Seconds that was mentioned.

                                      NZR have done very very poorly recently. The Board must look pretty hard at this, and deliver some firm messages

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                                        @KiwiMurph can't really see that as forcing since NZR announced that was one of their preferred options prior to the Xmas quarantine fiasco

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        #1435

                                        @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @KiwiMurph can't really see that as forcing since NZR announced that was one of their preferred options prior to the Xmas quarantine fiasco

                                        Sumo isn't the most objective.

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                                          Bovidae
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                                          Social media - creating a story when there isn't one!

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