'Super Rugby' 2021
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@junior there is always small details like out of state memberships, the swans have a decent number of those as they were originally from south melbourne and still have a decent support base there, until the 200's their academy team was the Port Melbourne VFL side, similar things could be said for the Lions i would say
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@junior there is always small details like out of state memberships, the swans have a decent number of those as they were originally from south melbourne and still have a decent support base there, until the 200's their academy team was the Port Melbourne VFL side, similar things could be said for the Lions i would say
Yeah, I get that. I'm more interested in the Giants membership figures, which I find quite staggering.
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@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@booboo i know i'm continuously explaining the difference between Union and League to well meaning aussies when they try engage in some rugby chat, thats melbourne thought
But they know they're different sports. And I'm sure they know which one has an international profile and which doesn't. Explaining the difference is something else entirely. The point is, I reckon if the Storm and the Rebels each played a final at the MCG; the Storm vs the Roosters and the Rebels vs the Crusaders - with the proviso that they're equally well marketed - the latter would draw a much larger crowd because the game has an international profile and that would spin their wheels hard. Likewise a BC test vs a Kiwis vs Kangaroos test. And lastly, if you asked your average Victorian which of the two Australia national sides they knew of, the vast majority would say the Wallabies.
@shark said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kiwiwomble said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@booboo i know i'm continuously explaining the difference between Union and League to well meaning aussies when they try engage in some rugby chat, thats melbourne thought
But they know they're different sports. And I'm sure they know which one has an international profile and which doesn't. Explaining the difference is something else entirely. The point is, I reckon if the Storm and the Rebels each played a final at the MCG; the Storm vs the Roosters and the Rebels vs the Crusaders - with the proviso that they're equally well marketed - the latter would draw a much larger crowd because the game has an international profile and that would spin their wheels hard. Likewise a BC test vs a Kiwis vs Kangaroos test. And lastly, if you asked your average Victorian which of the two Australia national sides they knew of, the vast majority would say the Wallabies.
Really? I'm always surprised how many don't
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If I had to pick an Aussie team to drop, I'd struggle. Brumbies have history but Canberra is less than 400k population. Melbourne is saturated but also a key market. Perth is so far but the market isn't as saturated and they seem to have a decent following.
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From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
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i think first up we should have some sort of finals
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@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
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@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
I like the idea, but as it is right now, would they be competitive? Genuine question.
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
I like the idea, but as it is right now, would they be competitive? Genuine question.
They might need some help, but Barrett plays for Sungoliath next year, with Hendrix, McMahon, Li, Kerevi, and Will Chambers.
Kobe has BBBR, Franklin, Buckman, Lafaele, Parker, Yamashita (ex Chiefs) and have signed Ben Smith and Aaron Cruden.
Panasonic has Pocock, Kruis signed,
Rapana, Horie, Inagaki, And a few other lesser lights, but they’ve been the best team for a while.I think one of the bigger problems is that many of the overseas’ talents might not want to go back to Super rugby.
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They might need some help, but Barrett plays for Sungoliath next year, with Hendrix, McMahon, Li, Kerevi, and Will Chambers.
Kobe has BBBR, Franklin, Buckman, Lafaele, Parker, Yamashita (ex Chiefs) and have signed Ben Smith and Aaron Cruden.
Panasonic has Pocock, Kruis signed,
Rapana, Horie, Inagaki, And a few other lesser lights, but they’ve been the best team for a while.I think one of the bigger problems is that many of the overseas’ talents might not want to go back to Super rugby.
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@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
love the idea -- but how do the seasons fit? Right now it's 35 degrees most days in Tokyo ... do we just play summer rugby on pro grounds and accept it?
I'm fully with getting Japan on board because of timezones, but crikey the seasons don't work well for us. Same problem SA has in Europe.
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Kirwan said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
From meetings today there is a very real chance SRA is played again in 2021 unless Aussie sorts its shit out.
Could we just add the PI team to the 5 NZ teams? Or add a new NZ team and PI?
Comp is good, but it needs more teams. Might as well try to plan for the future as self sufficient and help the island countries.
3 Japanese company teams and we would be there: Panasonic (Robbie), Kobe (Dave Dillon), and Suntory (Milton Haig/O'Halloran)
love the idea -- but how do the seasons fit? Right now it's 35 degrees most days in Tokyo ... do we just play summer rugby on pro grounds and accept it?
I'm fully with getting Japan on board because of timezones, but crikey the seasons don't work well for us. Same problem SA has in Europe.
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
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That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
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I thought we all agreed days games rule?!
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@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
@nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
I've played a rep game at 36 degrees at 2pm on a Tropical summers day, so the humidity was through the roof. I played 80 minutes, and i nearly fucking died. It's incredibly stressful on your body even at that level, and even if you live here. At Super rugby speed, having flown in from say, Dunedin, someone would cook themselves.
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@nzzp said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
@gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:
That's a great point. If the season timeframe is the same as this year, absolutely no way.
It's 35 degrees today.
I’d say any games held in Japan would have to finish before the end of June. Even then, it would be warm, but shouldn't be over 30 (could happen though).
any reason we can't play Super in the hot weather though? I mean they played League 9s ... it's just faster. The grounds these days are soft and well watered, so shouldn't be an impediment. Maybe night rugby is the way to go - hot, but not ridiculous, and no sun to cook the players?
Doing some research, Weatherspark shows this for Tokyo - that up to June it's usually not too bad at night
I've played a rep game at 36 degrees at 2pm on a Tropical summers day, so the humidity was through the roof. I played 80 minutes, and i nearly fucking died. It's incredibly stressful on your body even at that level, and even if you live here. At Super rugby speed, having flown in from say, Dunedin, someone would cook themselves.
