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A Global Season?

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  • boobooB booboo

    @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

    The tours look to be both in autumn now, not split, but yeah anything to fix the mess out would be good

    March April May?

    It's autumn now.

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    I'm cautiously ok with this.

    1. It would make RWC year TRCs worth playing? Instead of some curse teams want to lose on purpose.

    But I also want SR to fuck off out of my cricket season. So dont want it starting too soon to give enough warm up for the TRC.

    1. Having the regional/continental annual tournaments in 1 block, with no club rugby overlap, good for the Americas Rugby Championship and the Rugby Europe one. Good for a) player release, and b) rugby Europe currently has Russia playing their test championship in their frozen off season.

    2. A combined back to back 'NH autumn' window (assume 6 weeks?) would allow my proposed second regional tournament, the Pan-Pacs, to not have to squeeze into a 3 week November window, would really need 4 weeks minimum.

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      @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

      The tours look to be both in autumn now, not split, but yeah anything to fix the mess out would be good

      March April May?

      It's autumn now.

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      @booboo autumn NH

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        @booboo autumn NH

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        @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

        @booboo autumn NH

        It's a bugbear of mine (I have a few).

        I find calling them Autumn Internationals, when they happen in Spring, arrogant and self- important, like calling a national body of the sport The Rugby Union.

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          @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

          @booboo autumn NH

          It's a bugbear of mine (I have a few).

          I find calling them Autumn Internationals, when they happen in Spring, arrogant and self- important, like calling a national body of the sport The Rugby Union.

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          @booboo narp, when you're first, you don't have to differentiate. Prime example Royal Air Force.

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            @booboo narp, when you're first, you don't have to differentiate. Prime example Royal Air Force.

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            @Machpants we'll probably just remain on separate sides of that argument

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              TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

              Super Rugby
              Rugby Championship
              All Blacks home series (October)
              Northern Tour (November)

              That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

                Super Rugby
                Rugby Championship
                All Blacks home series (October)
                Northern Tour (November)

                That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

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                @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

                Super Rugby
                Rugby Championship
                All Blacks home series (October)
                Northern Tour (November)

                That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

                How is this any better for us than what happens right now? Surely any Nations League could be achieved whatever the calendar looks like. People have harped on about a global season for years but I have not seen one proposal that is better than the status quo in terms of season structure. Maybe some other structures will make us more money?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

                  Super Rugby
                  Rugby Championship
                  All Blacks home series (October)
                  Northern Tour (November)

                  That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

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                  @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                  TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

                  Super Rugby
                  Rugby Championship
                  All Blacks home series (October)
                  Northern Tour (November)

                  That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

                  That's ridiculous. What muppet thinks that is sustainable?

                  I'm with Rob - tours make more sense and would be awesome for fans.

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                    It's the same as now.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.

                      Super Rugby
                      Rugby Championship
                      All Blacks home series (October)
                      Northern Tour (November)

                      That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.

                      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/05/rugby-international-test-rugby-calendar-could-be-set-for-major-overhaul.html

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                      @Bovidae really? Why move the 6N then, if not to align with when matches get played in the SH? All that's really happening in that scenario is June windows go to October

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                        @Bovidae really? Why move the 6N then, if not to align with when matches get played in the SH? All that's really happening in that scenario is June windows go to October

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                        @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

                        The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

                          The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

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                          @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                          @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).

                          I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?

                          So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby

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                            @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                            @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).

                            I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?

                            So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby

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                            @nzzp said in A Global Season?:

                            @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).

                            I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?
                            So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby

                            Ideally you would run both INternational comps around the same time, so that when the tours happen, both Hemispeheres are at the same point (in good form, not at the end of a long season blah blah blah)

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                              @Bovidae really? Why move the 6N then, if not to align with when matches get played in the SH? All that's really happening in that scenario is June windows go to October

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                              @nzzp said in A Global Season?:

                              @Bovidae really? Why move the 6N then, if not to align with when matches get played in the SH? All that's really happening in that scenario is June windows go to October

                              At least by the time the October test matches roll around, everyone will be equally knackered

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

                                The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

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                                @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                @nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.

                                The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.

                                I don't mind the logic of an international "season" of 3 or so months where the major international tournaments and tours are played. It makes much more sense than what we have now of 3 test windows.

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                                  I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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                                    I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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                                    @Machpants in UK and Ireland in a years time? Fucken eh! There's my summer holiday plans.

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                                      I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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                                      @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

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                                        @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

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                                        @antipodean said in A Global Season?:

                                        @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

                                        Even if they do, the money a large UK stadium makes off a tier 1 game, even split in half after a large bit taken out, is still a fuckload more than we make here. Thus those 'extra' tour matches, ABs get millions each one.

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                                          @antipodean said in A Global Season?:

                                          @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

                                          Even if they do, the money a large UK stadium makes off a tier 1 game, even split in half after a large bit taken out, is still a fuckload more than we make here. Thus those 'extra' tour matches, ABs get millions each one.

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                                          @Machpants yeah the only thing I'm cynical about on this is international travel to here being a thing.

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