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A Global Season?

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  • M Machpants

    I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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    @Machpants in UK and Ireland in a years time? Fucken eh! There's my summer holiday plans.

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    • M Machpants

      I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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      @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

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        @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

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        @antipodean said in A Global Season?:

        @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

        Even if they do, the money a large UK stadium makes off a tier 1 game, even split in half after a large bit taken out, is still a fuckload more than we make here. Thus those 'extra' tour matches, ABs get millions each one.

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        • M Machpants

          @antipodean said in A Global Season?:

          @Machpants Call me a cynic, but I suspect those unions that have their own stadiums might have rather large costs to host the event...

          Even if they do, the money a large UK stadium makes off a tier 1 game, even split in half after a large bit taken out, is still a fuckload more than we make here. Thus those 'extra' tour matches, ABs get millions each one.

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          @Machpants yeah the only thing I'm cynical about on this is international travel to here being a thing.

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            Aye, there's the rub

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            • M Machpants

              I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300021556/covid19-virus-cup-could-raise-500-million-for-rugby-unions

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              @Machpants said in A Global Season?:

              I'll put it here, a quasi world cup. So a bit of cash and the chance for foster to win it, or fuck off? I'm in!

              It'd be awesome - but I'd take it as a knockout style cup, a bit different, four rounds: 16, 8, 4, FINAL. Can play a plate/bowl comp as well at the same time, to keep the eyeballs up. Would give 13 'live' games, plus a bunch of second tier games, and all done in a month.

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                Really like the idea of a knockout tournament. Seems like a great idea to secure funding for the future of international and domestic rugby. Of course this means that World Rugby has immediately ruled it out ... Time to dump them.

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                  Of course this means that World Rugby has immediately ruled it out

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300022440/world-rugby-shoots-down-francis-barons-500m-coronavirus-cup-concept

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                    A tournament for purely revenue reasons.

                    Seeing as RWC year is the worst year, financially, for the Tier 1 nations. As SH don't host June tours and NH don't host November tours - I'd be interested in seeing the proposed $500m. And how it balances against a 'normal' season.

                    $500m / 16 = $31m each for the 16 participants. Although we all know it wouldn't be distributed evenly, and would the 17th non-participating nation get zero?

                    Could be Great for a Tonga.

                    Would it be good for a Sanzar nation like NZ to sacrifice an entire home season, or 6 weeks of their home season - how much is that worth? What happens in November.

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                    • RapidoR Rapido

                      A tournament for purely revenue reasons.

                      Seeing as RWC year is the worst year, financially, for the Tier 1 nations. As SH don't host June tours and NH don't host November tours - I'd be interested in seeing the proposed $500m. And how it balances against a 'normal' season.

                      $500m / 16 = $31m each for the 16 participants. Although we all know it wouldn't be distributed evenly, and would the 17th non-participating nation get zero?

                      Could be Great for a Tonga.

                      Would it be good for a Sanzar nation like NZ to sacrifice an entire home season, or 6 weeks of their home season - how much is that worth? What happens in November.

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                      @Rapido said in A Global Season?:

                      Would it be good for a Sanzar nation like NZ to sacrifice an entire home season, or 6 weeks of their home season - how much is that worth? What happens in November.

                      Why don't we have both? a 4 week tourney allows us and NH to have a home season, as well as this in the middle. A knockout would be 4 games, and worth shedloads to the broadcasters.

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                        The other point to consider is that the B&I Lions tour to SA next year would have to be postponed to accommodate this. Would we be happy to do that if it was NZ's turn for the tour?

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/date-set-for-global-calendar-summit-that-could-change-the-rugby-schedule-forever-report-six-nations/

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                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12337699&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb

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                              McGeechan's thoughts.

                              We (the SH) have been trying to avoid interruptions in Super Rugby but this is worse than the current situation as Super rugby and M10 Cup are two distinct competitions with different players.

                              What a unified calendar might look like
                              
                              Late January:  All domestic leagues begin
                              
                              March-April:  First international window: Six Nations, Rugby Championship
                              
                              May: Domestic leagues resume
                              
                              Mid-July-August:  First rest period for everyone, six weeks
                              
                              September:  Domestic leagues resume
                              
                              October-November:  Second international window: North v South tours, tier one and tier two included, plus World Cup and Lions tour every other year
                              
                              November-December:  Domestic leagues finish
                              
                              Christmas
                              
                              Club World Challenge: winners of domestic leagues meet in play-offs to determine "world champion" - proceeds to be shared by pro game in both hemispheres.
                              

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/121751599/how-a-global-season-could-work-and-lead-to-all-black-midweek-matches

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                McGeechan's thoughts.

                                We (the SH) have been trying to avoid interruptions in Super Rugby but this is worse than the current situation as Super rugby and M10 Cup are two distinct competitions with different players.

                                What a unified calendar might look like
                                
                                Late January:  All domestic leagues begin
                                
                                March-April:  First international window: Six Nations, Rugby Championship
                                
                                May: Domestic leagues resume
                                
                                Mid-July-August:  First rest period for everyone, six weeks
                                
                                September:  Domestic leagues resume
                                
                                October-November:  Second international window: North v South tours, tier one and tier two included, plus World Cup and Lions tour every other year
                                
                                November-December:  Domestic leagues finish
                                
                                Christmas
                                
                                Club World Challenge: winners of domestic leagues meet in play-offs to determine "world champion" - proceeds to be shared by pro game in both hemispheres.
                                

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/121751599/how-a-global-season-could-work-and-lead-to-all-black-midweek-matches

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                                @Bovidae Has McGeechan been to the SH in December - late January? What a stupid suggestion.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Bovidae Has McGeechan been to the SH in December - late January? What a stupid suggestion.

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                                  @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                    @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                    @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                      @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                      @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                      @canefan said in A Global Season?:

                                      @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                      @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                      Those are indoor temperatures with the gas heaters on.

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                                        I spent 4 awesome years in St Andrews, which has got some beautiful golden sand beaches. So funny to watch gleeful kids run in their togs in the summer hols... then run out seconds later screaming in cold agony. I don't think I went beyond ankle depth for those years

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                          @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                          @canefan said in A Global Season?:

                                          @Bovidae said in A Global Season?:

                                          @antipodean McGeechan is Scottish so doesn't know what summer is.

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                                          That's not warm, chief.

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