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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

    Some speculation.

    Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

    No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

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    canefan
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    #1465

    @Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

    Some speculation.

    Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

    No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

    Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

      Some speculation.

      Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

      No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

      Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen

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      mariner4life
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      #1466

      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

      Some speculation.

      Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

      No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

      Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen

      i saw an interesting hypothesis where there is a split second in the heartbeat cycle where the heart is actually quite exposed and in danger. If the hit was right at this minuscule point in time, and throw in a hit of adrenalin from the whiplash effect, and his heart rhythm gets proper fucked up. Hence why he got up, but then immediately collapsed.

      scary shit man. the collision sports really are stupid

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

        Some speculation.

        Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

        No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

        Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen

        i saw an interesting hypothesis where there is a split second in the heartbeat cycle where the heart is actually quite exposed and in danger. If the hit was right at this minuscule point in time, and throw in a hit of adrenalin from the whiplash effect, and his heart rhythm gets proper fucked up. Hence why he got up, but then immediately collapsed.

        scary shit man. the collision sports really are stupid

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        canefan
        wrote on last edited by canefan
        #1467

        @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php

        Some speculation.

        Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively

        No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.

        Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen

        i saw an interesting hypothesis where there is a split second in the heartbeat cycle where the heart is actually quite exposed and in danger. If the hit was right at this minuscule point in time, and throw in a hit of adrenalin from the whiplash effect, and his heart rhythm gets proper fucked up. Hence why he got up, but then immediately collapsed.

        scary shit man. the collision sports really are stupid

        They used to teach the precordial thump in resuscitation courses. My basic understanding is if you see someone collapse it is possible to correct their cardiac arrhythmia by administering a hard hit to the sternum. Perhaps the principle behind this applies here, that you can knock someone out of rhythm. Either way they got to him super fast, so that should increase his chances of survival, without knowing exactly what has gone wrong

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @canefan I thought it was illegal to use helmet to hit with on purpose, college game I watched last week player was penalised for it.

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          @Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          @canefan I thought it was illegal to use helmet to hit with on purpose, college game I watched last week player was penalised for it.

          College has stricter rules than the NFL. Leading with the helmet a penalty but unnecessary roughness rather than targeting. (That means it's not reviewable and not an automatic ejection) It's technically a foul if either the offence or the defence does it but it's quite unusual for it to be called against the offence. It generally has to be blatantly leading with the helmet (eg lowering the head) and striking with the crown of the helmet rather than a glancing blow.

          NFL rule book is insane in the level of detail it goes into.

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          • canefanC Away
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            canefan
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            #1469

            https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35385154/damar-hamlin-shows-remarkable-improvement-remains-critical-condition

            Big improvement in Hamlin's condition

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              canefan
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              https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35391812/bills-damar-hamlin-breathing-own-tube-removed

              Great news

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                #1471

                https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/sport/afc-playoffs-neutral-site-proposal-nfl-spt/index.html

                Game officially cancelled which has caused potential playoff complications.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/sport/afc-playoffs-neutral-site-proposal-nfl-spt/index.html

                  Game officially cancelled which has caused potential playoff complications.

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                  @Crucial good for them, they've found the best solution I think

                  There are no good outcomes, this seems least bad

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    #1473

                    https://mobile.twitter.com/kbadenhausen/status/1611354847701344264

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                    • mariner4lifeM Online
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                      #1474

                      a fairly meaningless weekend of football comes to an end with the Lions just missing a play off spot.

                      Funniest thing today was the Texans and a coach definitely getting fired tomorrow saying "fuck you!!" to tanking by going for the win at the death, and thus dropping to the 2nd overall pick.

                      Some interesting games next week, is it just a scheduling quirk that there are so many in-division games?

                      Still looking like a 3-way shit fight in the AFC, while the NFC you would think, bar a disgraceful choke job, is the Niners again playing the championship game, this time against the Eagles.

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                      • Dan54D Away
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                        Dan54
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                        #1475

                        Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          a fairly meaningless weekend of football comes to an end with the Lions just missing a play off spot.

                          Funniest thing today was the Texans and a coach definitely getting fired tomorrow saying "fuck you!!" to tanking by going for the win at the death, and thus dropping to the 2nd overall pick.

                          Some interesting games next week, is it just a scheduling quirk that there are so many in-division games?

                          Still looking like a 3-way shit fight in the AFC, while the NFC you would think, bar a disgraceful choke job, is the Niners again playing the championship game, this time against the Eagles.

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                          @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                          a fairly meaningless weekend of football comes to an end with the Lions just missing a play off spot

                          But still being motivated enough after being eliminated from playoff contention to beat Packers and ensure Rodgers misses the playoffs.

                          NFC North will be interesting this offseason with presumably more Rodgers drama.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            a fairly meaningless weekend of football comes to an end with the Lions just missing a play off spot

                            But still being motivated enough after being eliminated from playoff contention to beat Packers and ensure Rodgers misses the playoffs.

                            NFC North will be interesting this offseason with presumably more Rodgers drama.

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                            mariner4life
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                            @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            a fairly meaningless weekend of football comes to an end with the Lions just missing a play off spot
                            

                            But still being motivated enough after being eliminated from playoff contention to beat Packers and ensure Rodgers misses the playoffs.

                            NFC North will be interesting this offseason with presumably more Rodgers drama.

                            they definitely play for Dan Campbell, and i can't see him looking for a new job tomorrow. Could be a few let go though.

                            As an illustration how much Hackett sucked, look at the Broncos the past 2 weeks. Wonder who we end up with?

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                            • CyclopsC Offline
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                              #1478

                              Interesting stat: 49ers had the weakest strength of schedule this season: .417, next weakest was the chargers at .443. Only played 4 teams with winning records.

                              In fact I can almost see all three wild cards winning in the NFC. Vikings are just the most ridiculously jammy team so if that luck runs out the Giants are capable of taking them down. The Bucs are attrocious and are one of the worst teams I can remember in the playoff for a few years and should get destroyed by the cowboys. And maybe the 49ers are more vulnerable than they seem. Only problem is that the Seahawks are a division rival that they've beaten twice this year already so I suspect that they'll win the trilogy match to go 3-0 over the Seahawks.

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                                mariner4life
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                                #1479

                                only 2 so far

                                Lovie Smith from the Texans

                                Kliff Kingsbury from the Cards. Just after a fat extension too.

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                                • Dan54D Dan54

                                  Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

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                                  @Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                  Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

                                  Not a great showpiece in the college national championship game.

                                  65-7.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                    Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

                                    Not a great showpiece in the college national championship game.

                                    65-7.

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                                    Dan54
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1481

                                    @KiwiMurph To be honest I admit to not always seeing games to finish, even the college stuff the timeouts usually get to me.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                      Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

                                      Not a great showpiece in the college national championship game.

                                      65-7.

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                                      canefan
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                                      @KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                      @Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                      Haven't really watched much NFL, but have to say have enjoyed a bit of the college stuff on sky, I can actually could understand what was happening a bit more. Same with basketball.

                                      Not a great showpiece in the college national championship game.

                                      65-7.

                                      Michigan would have probably presented a stronger challenge. But they fluffed their lines in the SF

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                                        Washington just shit all over Dallas

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                                          Who you got in the WC’s

                                          Seahawks v 49ers
                                          Chargers v Jags
                                          Dolphins v Bills
                                          Giants v Vikings
                                          Ravens v Bengals
                                          Cowboys v Bucs

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