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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

    @canefan I'm good with Jones. I reckon he's underrated as hell and a perfect system fit for Shanahan's offense.

    The thing with Mac Jones is that that Alabama offense is stacked. Waddle and Devonta Smith. Najee Harris. A stacked OL (2 guys projected to go in the 2nd and one in the 3rd). There's a bit of chicken and egg about whether it's him or them, but I think it's pretty clearly more them that him and I think he's going to struggle without two WRs who aren't favourites against any cb1, an rb who is at worst the second best in the league and when his ol isn't winning with the consistency that the Tide's does.

    Plus Surtain & Barmore on the other side of the ball, also first round prospects. So he would be facing much more short fields, far fewer high pressure 4th quarter drives etc.

    None of that says he can't succeed in the NFL, I just think it lengthens his odds. If they've really traded up from 12 for him that's a poor call, because I think they could have got him at 6 for a lower price, and probably stood at 12 and got him. Realistically the price they've paid to trade up makes me pretty confident they're taking Fields or Wilson if we get a brownsesque last minute change.

    All than said, I have this weird feeling that the Jags are going to go Fields at one. No evidence or reason, and almost definitely wrong, but just a feeling I can't shake.

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    @cyclops

    Lawrence is going 1. The only reason Urban Meyer took the job was cos of Lawrence. Lawrence has already committed to donating to Jacksonville charities.

    As for Mac - i'm talking about the tape. Watch his footwork. Watch his movement in the pocket. Watch how he is an anticipatory thrower (i.e. he throws players open rather than needing the player to be open before he throws it). He had less talent around him than Tua had the prior season and yet he outperformed Tua.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Trevorlawrencee/status/1383881561116864526

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      @cyclops

      Lawrence is going 1. The only reason Urban Meyer took the job was cos of Lawrence. Lawrence has already committed to donating to Jacksonville charities.

      As for Mac - i'm talking about the tape. Watch his footwork. Watch his movement in the pocket. Watch how he is an anticipatory thrower (i.e. he throws players open rather than needing the player to be open before he throws it). He had less talent around him than Tua had the prior season and yet he outperformed Tua.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Trevorlawrencee/status/1383881561116864526

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      @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

      @cyclops

      Lawrence is going 1. The only reason Urban Meyer took the job was cos of Lawrence. Lawrence has already committed to donating to Jacksonville charities.

      As for Mac - i'm talking about the tape. Watch his footwork. Watch his movement in the pocket. Watch how he is an anticipatory thrower (i.e. he throws players open rather than needing the player to be open before he throws it). He had less talent around him than Tua had the prior season and yet he outperformed Tua.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Trevorlawrencee/status/1383881561116864526

      9ers fans are in the Shanahan's hands. Kyle has proven he can coach, he will back his ability to coach up whoever they pick

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        49ers had a press conference this morning - they were roasted with questions about how the fanbase hates Mac Jones.

        49ers were very defensive about not caring what fans/outside noise thinks. Either 49ers are picking Mac Jones or this is the biggest smoke screen ever.

        Also - expect Jimmy G to be traded this weekend - it sure sounded like he's gone. I'd watch out for Washington to perhaps trade for him - their new GM just came from SF.

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          @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

          49ers had a press conference this morning - they were roasted with questions about how the fanbase hates Mac Jones.

          49ers were very defensive about not caring what fans/outside noise thinks. Either 49ers are picking Mac Jones or this is the biggest smoke screen ever.

          Also - expect Jimmy G to be traded this weekend - it sure sounded like he's gone. I'd watch out for Washington to perhaps trade for him - their new GM just came from SF.

          Would be safer to pick someone and have him sit behind Jimmy for a year. Will be massive pressure if they pick Jones and he is made to start immediately

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            The Broncos traded for Teddy Bridgewater....

            yay...

            he's basically free (6th round pick and like $3M) but even still. To me this means they are well aware that Lock is not the guy.

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              Let the Draft Day craziness begin.

              https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1387848942432489478

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                Let the Draft Day craziness begin.

                https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1387848942432489478

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                @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                Let the Draft Day craziness begin.

                https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1387848942432489478

                How can the 9ers swap Jimmy G for Rodgers? Do it!

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                  @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                  Let the Draft Day craziness begin.

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1387848942432489478

                  How can the 9ers swap Jimmy G for Rodgers? Do it!

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                  @canefan send him to the Bears. Rodgers would love it - such a petty player (and the best QB I've seen)

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                    yes!! i have heard all sorts of rumours about Rodgers not starting next season in a cheese helmet. You have to sign him if you have a chance, but he's gotta be tough to work with. Great player, shit team mate

                    Been watching old draft videos on the NFL's Insta page. It's fucking great seeing these kids as they get signed. Watched a good one with JuJu Smith-Schuster before. The Steelers got him at pick 62! bargain

                    Also, even weirder than Rodgers wanting out, i saw a post that Tim Tebow will head to the Jags. As a tightend. Now, i reckon he should have pivoted to TW as soon as it became apparent he wasn't going to make it as a QB. Big guy, good feet. But that was 10 years ago! How come Kap can't get a gig again?

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                      yes!! i have heard all sorts of rumours about Rodgers not starting next season in a cheese helmet. You have to sign him if you have a chance, but he's gotta be tough to work with. Great player, shit team mate

                      Been watching old draft videos on the NFL's Insta page. It's fucking great seeing these kids as they get signed. Watched a good one with JuJu Smith-Schuster before. The Steelers got him at pick 62! bargain

                      Also, even weirder than Rodgers wanting out, i saw a post that Tim Tebow will head to the Jags. As a tightend. Now, i reckon he should have pivoted to TW as soon as it became apparent he wasn't going to make it as a QB. Big guy, good feet. But that was 10 years ago! How come Kap can't get a gig again?

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                      @mariner4life well Tebow played under Jags coach Urban Meyer at college. That's the only reason this is even a chance of happening.

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                        And Fields slide begins. I wish the jets had picked him but Wilson is qb now so here's hoping he can adjust to the higher talent level in the NFL.

                        God I hope the pats don't manage to get Fields.

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                          And Fields slide begins. I wish the jets had picked him but Wilson is qb now so here's hoping he can adjust to the higher talent level in the NFL.

                          God I hope the pats don't manage to get Fields.

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                          @cyclops Trey Lance at 3 to the 49ers? From North Dakota State ... after 1 game.

                          Wow, that's some brain bending shit. Hope they know what they're doing

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                            And Fields slide begins. I wish the jets had picked him but Wilson is qb now so here's hoping he can adjust to the higher talent level in the NFL.

                            God I hope the pats don't manage to get Fields.

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                            @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                            And Fields slide begins. I wish the jets had picked him but Wilson is qb now so here's hoping he can adjust to the higher talent level in the NFL.

                            God I hope the pats don't manage to get Fields.

                            i have read a bunch that the Broncos are hoping he's still on the Board at 9

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                              @cyclops Trey Lance at 3 to the 49ers? From North Dakota State ... after 1 game.

                              Wow, that's some brain bending shit. Hope they know what they're doing

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                              @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                              @cyclops Trey Lance at 3 to the 49ers? From North Dakota State ... after 1 game.

                              Wow, that's some brain bending shit. Hope they know what they're doing

                              1 game? He played the entire year before.

                              Kyle swings for the fences and doesn't pick a traditional Shanahan QB. Exciting.

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                                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                                @cyclops Trey Lance at 3 to the 49ers? From North Dakota State ... after 1 game.

                                Wow, that's some brain bending shit. Hope they know what they're doing

                                1 game? He played the entire year before.

                                Kyle swings for the fences and doesn't pick a traditional Shanahan QB. Exciting.

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                                @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:

                                @cyclops Trey Lance at 3 to the 49ers? From North Dakota State ... after 1 game.

                                Wow, that's some brain bending shit. Hope they know what they're doing

                                1 game? He played the entire year before.

                                spot on, my bad ... misread an online comment. Should have been 1 game this season

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                                  defense can get fucked. QB, QB, QB, TE, WR, WR to top the draft.

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                                    defense can get fucked. QB, QB, QB, TE, WR, WR to top the draft.

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                                    @mariner4life There's no huge defensive star in this class.

                                    There's still another gun WR out there from Alabama who won the Heisman Trophy this year.

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                                      interesting the Lions went with protection for their big QB signing rather than someone to throw to

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                                        don't you fuck this up....

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                                          Horn is the best cornerback in the class. Son of Joe Horn who carved at receiver for Saints back in the day.

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