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Highlanders 2021 coaching staff

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    just promote Hammer to the top job

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      Surely first option would be brownie get promoted and mauger works on defense, Dermody promoted to forward coach with an eye to him stepping up after a couple of years

      I’ll also say, results aside, during SRA weave played some great code and I would be working out how to build on that and then decide who is the best person to do it

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      @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

      mauger works on defense

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      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

        With the uncertainty around whether this weekend's games go ahead or not, I thought we might as well discuss the future:

        This year Aaron Mauger's contract as Highlanders head coach expires. The Highlanders board will soon decide whether to renew it for 2021 and beyond.

        Mauger's winning percentage sits at just 40% (2018-2020). This is a decrease from 69% from Tony Brown (2017) and 53% from Joseph (2010-2016).

        The Highlanders have won just 2 games in 2020 (including pre-Covid results), even the Chiefs won 4 games pre-Covid including win over Crusaders.

        Personally, I believe Mauger's time as head coach is up. The Highlanders have only gotten worse each year since Brown stood down as head coach in 2017.

        I've canvassed some potential options to replace him as Highlanders head coach, assisting Brown until 2022 and potentially beyond.

        Pat Lam (Bristol Bears)

        Kieran Keane (North Harbour)

        John McKee (off-contract)

        Cory Brown (Japan Top League - Mannix Blues)

        Jono Gibbes (Top 14 - La Rochelle)

        Dave Dillion (Japan Top League - current Kolbe Steelers head coach)

        Tabai Matson (rumored to be shafted by Chiefs in 2021)

        Daryl Gibson (current Fiji attack coach under Vern Cotter)

        Milton Haig (Japan Top League - Suntory Sungoliath head coach)

        Jason O'Halloran (Suntory Sungoliath assistant coach)

        We can pretty much already rule-out both Haig and O'Halloran since they only began their (2 year minimum) contract for Suntory last year.

        One of the best up-and-coming NZ coaches Clayton McMillan is being groomed as Chiefs head coach post-Gatland, so unfortunately he's out of the equation for now.

        Another option is to re-unite Ta$man Mako's title winning coaching duo of 2019, Andrew Goodman and Clarke Dermody.

        Goodman is the current defense coach at the Crusaders, while Dermody has been the Highlanders scrum coach since 2013.

        Another more bolder option is to copy the Blues template, do a Umaga/Rangi of 2019 and demote Mauger to assistant coach, while promoting Dermody to head coach.

        This could actually work very well because Mauger has significantly improved the Highlanders defense since taking over after Delany moved on in 2019. This is the one area Mauger has excelled in 2020. But to be a successful head coach you need good man-management skills also. For the betterment of the Highlanders, I believe Mauger should move to a specialist defense role.

        Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next. There has been little continuity in Highlanders selections until these last 2 rounds of Super Rugby Aotearoa.

        Tony Brown is contracted as Highlanders assistant coach until at least 2022. Word is Dermody will likely be promoted to forwards coach in 2021 as Mark Hammett is leaving the Highlanders after this Saturday's match. Due to Ta$man forwards coach Shane Christie's relationship with Dermody, I think it's possible Christie could be joining the Highlanders next year.

        Most likely out-come for 2021: Aaron Mauger (head+defense), Tony Brown (attack), Clarke Dermody (scrum+forwards coach), Shane Christie (ass. forwards coach).

        What my preference would be: Clarke Dermody (head coach+forwards), Tony Brown (attack), Andrew Goodman (ass.backs, skills, individual player development), Aaron Mauger (defense), Shane Christie (ass. forwards). Re-unite the Ta$man title-winning staff of 2019, let's make it happen!

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        @kiwi_expat said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

        Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next.

        Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @kiwi_expat said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

          Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next.

          Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

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          @Duluth I think I’m coming around to idea let this team, minus hammer, keep building unless someone proven like Joseph wants to come back

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            Ben Smith in as the humility coach.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @kiwi_expat said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

              Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next.

              Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

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              @Duluth His selections are finally becoming consistent. For the most part Mauger has his best XV sorted and is sticking with a core group of players, which is a good sign. I'm still hesitant about his coaching as the improvements this year can be more attributed to Brown, rather than Mauger himself.

              What we know is that Tony Brown has been in charge of the game-planning/strategy this year, not Mauger. This is the most significant area in which the Highlanders have stepped up this year. They've been playing smarter rugby.

              The strategy the Highlanders implemented this year was much the same as what Brown used with Japan at the rugby world cup.

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @Duluth His selections are finally becoming consistent. For the most part Mauger has his best XV sorted and is sticking with a core group of players, which is a good sign. I'm still hesitant about his coaching as the improvements this year can be more attributed to Brown, rather than Mauger himself.

                What we know is that Tony Brown has been in charge of the game-planning/strategy this year, not Mauger. This is the most significant area in which the Highlanders have stepped up this year. They've been playing smarter rugby.

                The strategy the Highlanders implemented this year was much the same as what Brown used with Japan at the rugby world cup.

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                @kiwi_expat said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                @Duluth His selections are finally becoming consistent. For the most part Mauger has his best XV sorted and is sticking with a core group of players, which is a good sign. I'm still hesitant about his coaching as the improvements this year can be more attributed to Brown, rather than Mauger himself.

                What we know is that Tony Brown has been in charge of the game-planning/strategy this year, not Mauger. This is the most significant area in which the Highlanders have stepped up this year. They've been playing smarter rugby.

                The strategy the Highlanders implemented this year was much the same as what Brown used with Japan at the rugby world cup.

                Tony, if you want the job, we're not really the ones to be campaigning...

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @kiwi_expat said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                  Mauger's problem is said to be man-management and selection related, sources have indicated there is increasing unrest among the Highlanders players with regards to Mauger's contradictory methods, he is alleged to say one thing one week then change his mind. Players are frustrated to find themselves on the outer after being selected one week then suddenly dropped again the next.

                  Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

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                  @Duluth said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                  Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

                  I suspect that the inexcusable omission of Walden throughout has permanently tainted perceptions of the head coach.

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @Duluth said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                    Do you think the last game might've changed attitudes towards Mauger?

                    I suspect that the inexcusable omission of Walden throughout has permanently tainted perceptions of the head coach.

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                    @Snowy all jokes aside, it is really baffling considering sio has become a bit of a card magnet and before collins moved our midfield was really struggling

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Snowy all jokes aside, it is really baffling considering sio has become a bit of a card magnet and before collins moved our midfield was really struggling

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                      @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

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                        @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

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                        @Snowy i got it 😉 it keeps giving, funny...and also quite relevant rugby chat

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                          A lot more people for Collins to chat to when in the backline as well. Must be the key to his success there.

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                            @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

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                            @Snowy said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                            @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

                            I always thought of him as a midfielder just because that's where he started with otago when Bender was at 15, it was reported when he moved to the blues it was because he wanted game time at his preferred position of 15...which surprised me...and now ive seen it mentioned he's relishing his preferred position in the midfield :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                              @Snowy said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                              @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

                              I always thought of him as a midfielder just because that's where he started with otago when Bender was at 15, it was reported when he moved to the blues it was because he wanted game time at his preferred position of 15...which surprised me...and now ive seen it mentioned he's relishing his preferred position in the midfield :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                              @Kiwiwomble actually come to think of it, I think I was calling him an AB in waiting waaaay back then, he was a gun for a young fella...do I recall right he had blondish/curly hair?

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                                @Kiwiwomble actually come to think of it, I think I was calling him an AB in waiting waaaay back then, he was a gun for a young fella...do I recall right he had blondish/curly hair?

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                                @Bones ...not sure even i went that far...although i honestly think he'd have a much better rep if he'd just stuck to the midfield

                                I thought he always had pretty short hair but i did see this, this would have to be debut season
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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @Snowy said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                  @Kiwiwomble It was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. Collins to centre does seem to have been a bit of an inspired choice though. A full back moving to centre...brave stuff around here.

                                  I always thought of him as a midfielder just because that's where he started with otago when Bender was at 15, it was reported when he moved to the blues it was because he wanted game time at his preferred position of 15...which surprised me...and now ive seen it mentioned he's relishing his preferred position in the midfield :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                  I always thought of him as a midfielder just because that's where he started with otago when Bender was at 15, it was reported when he moved to the blues it was because he wanted game time at his preferred position of 15...which surprised me...and now ive seen it mentioned he's relishing his preferred position in the midfield :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  He was talked up as a midfielder when he arrived at the Blues. His best game for the Blues was in the preseason before he played a full match. He was playing at 12 and scored or set up 3 tries in 40mins

                                  He played that entire preseason in the midfield and then was selected at fullback when the real games started.
                                  He was terrible at fullback.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Bones ...not sure even i went that far...although i honestly think he'd have a much better rep if he'd just stuck to the midfield

                                    I thought he always had pretty short hair but i did see this, this would have to be debut season
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                                    @Kiwiwomble I was pretty surprised when he showed up playing average rugby at fullback at the blues a few years later.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Kiwiwomble I was pretty surprised when he showed up playing average rugby at fullback at the blues a few years later.

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                                      @Bones said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                      he showed up playing average rugby at fullback at the blues a few years later.

                                      He never reached those lofty heights

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Bones said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                        he showed up playing average rugby at fullback at the blues a few years later.

                                        He never reached those lofty heights

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                                        @Duluth said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                        @Bones said in Highlanders 2021 coaching staff:

                                        he showed up playing average rugby at fullback at the blues a few years later.

                                        He never reached those lofty heights

                                        It was the blues. Exceeding expectations was frowned upon.

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                                          I remembered him as a young on the rise, well thought of centre back in the day, but I probably only noticed him due to his name.

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