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  • ChrisC Chris

    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

    @chris said in Blues 2021:

    @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

    @chris said in Blues 2021:

    No doubt the Refs not just in SR will now be aware and watching Ofa and his clean out technique.After him doing the same in the AB game and getting carded he has reminded every Ref again that there is a problem there.I would expect the spotlight to stay on Ofa for a while.

    One was for a cleanout and another was for a high tackle, so not the same actions.

    Ok then 2 technical problems to fix ?

    So every card is a technical problem to fix?

    I don't remember saying that I asked the question is that 2 technical issues to fix for Ofa because if he cleans out like that again he is dicing with a long suspension.

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    @chris said in Blues 2021:

    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

    @chris said in Blues 2021:

    @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

    @chris said in Blues 2021:

    No doubt the Refs not just in SR will now be aware and watching Ofa and his clean out technique.After him doing the same in the AB game and getting carded he has reminded every Ref again that there is a problem there.I would expect the spotlight to stay on Ofa for a while.

    One was for a cleanout and another was for a high tackle, so not the same actions.

    Ok then 2 technical problems to fix ?

    So every card is a technical problem to fix?

    I don't remember saying that I asked the question is that 2 technical issues to fix for Ofa because if he cleans out like that again he is dicing with a long suspension.

    Are you worried about Scott Barrett who got red carded for a much worse clean out?

    Ofa was only a few inches off a great clearout. It’s a non issue.

    I’m more worried about his tackling tbh, he puts in massive hits but those are easy to get wrong and always look worse in slow motion.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      Good quote from https://tiponrugby.substack.com/p/free-eight. interesting comment on Rieko:

      While the Blues couldn’t finish on top against the Crusaders at Eden Park on Sunday, midfielder Rieko Ioane produced another impactful performance with ball in hand β€” as well as a couple of crucial defensive interventions. Throughout his Super Rugby career to date, his efforts against the 10-time champions have been stellar: he has made breaks as often in his 7 games against the Crusaders (once every 5.4 carries) as in his 55 games against all other opponents (once every 5.3), and beaten defenders in red and black (once every 2.0 carries) more frequently than others (3.2). What Scott Robertson’s side have done well is control how often he can release the ball out of contact; he has offloaded on only 5.1% of his carries against the Crusaders, compared to 9.6% against the Blues’ other opponents. His performance last weekend was largely in line with these trends: while he couldn’t complete an offload on his 14 carries, his footwork β€” which helped him beat 5 defenders and make 1 clean break β€” caused the Crusaders problems.

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      @nzzp 14 carries without an offload isn't what you want to see from a centre. If Reiko wants to be a centre long term, especially at the next level then he needs to improve in that area of his game.

      He's obviously got all the x factor and line-breaking ability in the world, but that doesn't always help when he doesn't distribute, ultimately preventing his side from turning pressure into points.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @nzzp 14 carries without an offload isn't what you want to see from a centre. If Reiko wants to be a centre long term, especially at the next level then he needs to improve in that area of his game.

        He's obviously got all the x factor and line-breaking ability in the world, but that doesn't always help when he doesn't distribute, ultimately preventing his side from turning pressure into points.

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        @canes4life yep. Crusaders did really well to shut that down.

        That said, he's in what game 3 of year 2 of his centre career? Plenty of time, and the physical attributes are all there. Hopefully he keeps on learning and builds his distribution. I think distribution can be taught if players are willing

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @canes4life yep. Crusaders did really well to shut that down.

          That said, he's in what game 3 of year 2 of his centre career? Plenty of time, and the physical attributes are all there. Hopefully he keeps on learning and builds his distribution. I think distribution can be taught if players are willing

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          #623

          @nzzp certainly, I mean we saw Nonu struggle early on and look how he turned out. Once Ioane adds that string to his bow I think the Blues will flourish, espeically with the likes of Clarke ranging wide.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @nzzp certainly, I mean we saw Nonu struggle early on and look how he turned out. Once Ioane adds that string to his bow I think the Blues will flourish, espeically with the likes of Clarke ranging wide.

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            @canes4life said in Blues 2021:

            @nzzp certainly, I mean we saw Nonu struggle early on and look how he turned out. Once Ioane adds that string to his bow I think the Blues will flourish, espeically with the likes of Clarke ranging wide.

            if we were playing Australian sides, folk would be saying he's a lock for teh ABs.

            Crusaders defence is remarkable to see live. Theya re so hard to break down.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @canes4life said in Blues 2021:

              @nzzp certainly, I mean we saw Nonu struggle early on and look how he turned out. Once Ioane adds that string to his bow I think the Blues will flourish, espeically with the likes of Clarke ranging wide.

              if we were playing Australian sides, folk would be saying he's a lock for teh ABs.

              Crusaders defence is remarkable to see live. Theya re so hard to break down.

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              @nzzp Crusaders are a different beast atm, and it's even harder when you're getting ball on the back foot.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                No doubt the Refs not just in SR will now be aware and watching Ofa and his clean out technique.After him doing the same in the AB game and getting carded he has reminded every Ref again that there is a problem there.I would expect the spotlight to stay on Ofa for a while.

                One was for a cleanout and another was for a high tackle, so not the same actions.

                Ok then 2 technical problems to fix ?

                So every card is a technical problem to fix?

                I don't remember saying that I asked the question is that 2 technical issues to fix for Ofa because if he cleans out like that again he is dicing with a long suspension.

                Are you worried about Scott Barrett who got red carded for a much worse clean out?

                Ofa was only a few inches off a great clearout. It’s a non issue.

                I’m more worried about his tackling tbh, he puts in massive hits but those are easy to get wrong and always look worse in slow motion.

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                Chris
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                @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                No doubt the Refs not just in SR will now be aware and watching Ofa and his clean out technique.After him doing the same in the AB game and getting carded he has reminded every Ref again that there is a problem there.I would expect the spotlight to stay on Ofa for a while.

                One was for a cleanout and another was for a high tackle, so not the same actions.

                Ok then 2 technical problems to fix ?

                So every card is a technical problem to fix?

                I don't remember saying that I asked the question is that 2 technical issues to fix for Ofa because if he cleans out like that again he is dicing with a long suspension.

                Are you worried about Scott Barrett who got red carded for a much worse clean out?

                Ofa was only a few inches off a great clearout. It’s a non issue.

                I’m more worried about his tackling tbh, he puts in massive hits but those are easy to get wrong and always look worse in slow motion.

                Lets see going forward how those clean outs by both pan out

                @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                @chris said in Blues 2021:

                No doubt the Refs not just in SR will now be aware and watching Ofa and his clean out technique.After him doing the same in the AB game and getting carded he has reminded every Ref again that there is a problem there.I would expect the spotlight to stay on Ofa for a while.

                One was for a cleanout and another was for a high tackle, so not the same actions.

                Ok then 2 technical problems to fix ?

                So every card is a technical problem to fix?

                I don't remember saying that I asked the question is that 2 technical issues to fix for Ofa because if he cleans out like that again he is dicing with a long suspension.

                Are you worried about Scott Barrett who got red carded for a much worse clean out?

                Ofa was only a few inches off a great clearout. It’s a non issue.

                I’m more worried about his tackling tbh, he puts in massive hits but those are easy to get wrong and always look worse in slow motion.

                Both players may have issues going forward it will be interesting over the next couple of months

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                  Duluth
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                  #627

                  Blues under 20 squad

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                    Helps to play for Auckland eh. πŸ™‚

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      Blues under 20 squad

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                      #629

                      @duluth no idea about Esile Fono who shows as Northland (well the banner looks like Allan Craigs one)

                      Think Josh Beehre, Corey Evans and Ryan Nankivell are from up here but playing club footy in Auckland.

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                        Tangiau went to Westlake so must have been lost to NH.

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                          Looks like Vikena and Kneepkens could be using U20s to get some game time.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            Looks like Vikena and Kneepkens could be using U20s to get some game time.

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                            Yeetyaah
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                            @kiwimurph I'm sure Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens would get some actual Super experience if he went to the Chiefs 😬

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                            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                              @kiwimurph I'm sure Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens would get some actual Super experience if he went to the Chiefs 😬

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                              @yeetyaah Or the Canes

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Blues under 20 squad

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                                mikey07
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                                @duluth said in Blues 2021:

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                                @Stargazer its even worse bias then the Canes look at all those Auckland players.

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  @kiwimurph I'm sure Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens would get some actual Super experience if he went to the Chiefs 😬

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                                  @yeetyaah said in Blues 2021:

                                  I'm sure Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens would get some actual Super experience if he went to the Chiefs 😬

                                  3 year contract πŸ™‚

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @yeetyaah said in Blues 2021:

                                    I'm sure Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens would get some actual Super experience if he went to the Chiefs 😬

                                    3 year contract πŸ™‚

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                                    @duluth 😭

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                                    • M mikey07

                                      @yeetyaah Or the Canes

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                                      @mikey07 said in Blues 2021:

                                      @yeetyaah Or the Canes

                                      Hah! At lock?

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                                        Time to try Plummer or Perofeta at 10?

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                                        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                          Time to try Plummer or Perofeta at 10?

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                                          @mofitzy_ said in Blues 2021:

                                          Time to try Plummer or Perofeta at 10?

                                          I thought Black was brilliant in the first couple of rounds but yeah he's been pretty ordinary since.

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