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Blues 2021

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-transtasman-leon-macdonald-reveals-personal-significance-of-blues-title/PNR423TJAAIWYEF5OAEQIXBOPE/

    Barrett's inclusion at No 10 will only enhance the Blues attacking potency and decision-making and while history suggests Tuivasa-Sheck's transition will take time to bed in, especially given he will bounce between positions, his professionalism is sure to shine.

    "Roger played midfield at school and plays in the outside backs in league," MacDonald said. "We'd be foolish to make a call on that now he hasn't even donned a rugby jersey yet. We've got to get him out of a Warriors jersey first.

    "We're hoping to see him a little bit in provincial rugby later on in the year. They'll ease him back in and we share a building with Auckland so we'll be around to help navigate through the learning of the game. It's really just feeling it out.

    "We've got the ability to change positions. Rieko Ioane can play midfield and wing. Roger could play on the wing, midfield or fullback. It's really what works out in the end."

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      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-transtasman-leon-macdonald-reveals-personal-significance-of-blues-title/PNR423TJAAIWYEF5OAEQIXBOPE/

      Barrett's inclusion at No 10 will only enhance the Blues attacking potency and decision-making and while history suggests Tuivasa-Sheck's transition will take time to bed in, especially given he will bounce between positions, his professionalism is sure to shine.

      "Roger played midfield at school and plays in the outside backs in league," MacDonald said. "We'd be foolish to make a call on that now he hasn't even donned a rugby jersey yet. We've got to get him out of a Warriors jersey first.

      "We're hoping to see him a little bit in provincial rugby later on in the year. They'll ease him back in and we share a building with Auckland so we'll be around to help navigate through the learning of the game. It's really just feeling it out.

      "We've got the ability to change positions. Rieko Ioane can play midfield and wing. Roger could play on the wing, midfield or fullback. It's really what works out in the end."

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      @tim also this

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/zarn-sullivans-breakout-campaign-with-the-blues-finishes-with-a-flourish-as-the-young-fullback-draws-beauden-barrett-comparisons/

      Code-hopper Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is also joining the outfit next season and could slot in across the backline but MacDonald is confident that Sullivan will continue to develop in the No 15 jersey and that 2021 is just the beginning for the youngster.
      
      "We'll keep him at the back at the moment," the coach said. "We've obviously got Beaudie there and Oates is going but Stephen Perofeta is playing good rugby and you saw Harry [Plummer] step up to the mark so we're pretty blessed with some good depth at 10.
      
      "And at the moment, I think, just nailing one job at the moment. And I think he's got the attributes to become a very good 15. I see the skillset's perfect and he just keeps growing in confidence and understanding, there's no reason why he couldn't become a 15 full-time."
      
      
      
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        #908

        Take the 2021 squad and eliminate temporary replacements and leaving players, then take out Niuia and keep Choat and Hunt, and add Barrett and RTS, and drop Macilai. That gives 35 players, with a lock and a hooker needed.

        Corey Evans joined the squad in SR-TT, so he will be the midfielder, and RTS will be the utility back. Riccitelli is rumoured to be heading north, so hooker will be him or Tolai. Dalziel trains with the Blues, but Josh Beehre might be preferred at lock. Ekuasi and Cam Church could push for loose forward spots. Another outside back such as Heem might go.

        This is my speculative squad of 38:

        Alex Hodgman
        Nepo Laulala
        James Lay
        Marcel Renata
        Karl Tu'inukuafe
        Ofa Tu'ungafasi

        Leni Apisai (short-term)
        Kurt Eklund
        Ray Niuia
        Luteru Tolai (short-term)
        Soane Vikena
        Ricky Riccitelli

        Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
        Sam Darry
        Josh Goodhue
        Jacob Pierce
        Patrick Tuipulotu
        Josh Beehre

        Adrian Choat (short-term)
        Blake Gibson
        Dillon Hunt (did not play)
        Dalton Papalii
        Taine Plumtree
        Tom Robinson
        Hoskins Sotutu
        Akira Ioane

        Finlay Christie
        Sam Nock
        Jonathan Ruru

        Otere Black
        Stephen Perofeta
        Harry Plummer
        Beauden Barrett

        TJ Faiane
        Bryce Heem
        Rieko Ioane
        Tanielu Teleʻa
        Corey Evans

        Roger Tuivasa-Sheck

        Caleb Clarke
        AJ Lam
        Jone Macilai-Tori (did not play)
        Emoni Narawa
        Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens
        Mark Telea
        Zarn Sullivan

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        • A African Monkey

          @tim Hmmm so we might see him there a fair bit for Auckland then?

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            • A African Monkey

              @steven-harris Theres nowhere for him to really go sadly, with every team fairly settled at 9 (except us). Overseas might be his only option?

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              @african-monkey said in Blues 2021:

              @steven-harris Theres nowhere for him to really go sadly, with every team fairly settled at 9 (except us). Overseas might be his only option?

              Moana Pasifika?

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                Does the coaching staff stay in place for next season.?
                Leon MacDonald
                Tom Coventry
                Tana Umaga
                Daniel Halangahu
                Ben Afeaki
                Hope so .Big ups to them for getting this franchise competitive.

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                • T trodthesod

                  Does the coaching staff stay in place for next season.?
                  Leon MacDonald
                  Tom Coventry
                  Tana Umaga
                  Daniel Halangahu
                  Ben Afeaki
                  Hope so .Big ups to them for getting this franchise competitive.

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                  @trodthesod said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:

                  Daniel Halangahu

                  Not convinced with Daniel Halangahu, backline attack hasn't been as impressive as the forwards. That might just be Otere's fault, but I think there's space for someone better coaching the backs.

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                    @trodthesod said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:

                    Daniel Halangahu

                    Not convinced with Daniel Halangahu, backline attack hasn't been as impressive as the forwards. That might just be Otere's fault, but I think there's space for someone better coaching the backs.

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                    @kirwan said in Blues 2021:

                    @trodthesod said in SR T-T FINAL: Blues v Highlanders:

                    Daniel Halangahu

                    Not convinced with Daniel Halangahu, backline attack hasn't been as impressive as the forwards. That might just be Otere's fault, but I think there's space for someone better coaching the backs.

                    The backline is functioning similar to Harbours a few years ago

                    Tai Lavea would be a good replacement. It won't happen this year though

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @african-monkey said in Blues 2021:

                      @steven-harris Theres nowhere for him to really go sadly, with every team fairly settled at 9 (except us). Overseas might be his only option?

                      Moana Pasifika?

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                      @gt12 Maybe, or an Aussie team (which i doubt). I'm sure @Steven-Harris will know more and will let us know haha.

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @gt12 Maybe, or an Aussie team (which i doubt). I'm sure @Steven-Harris will know more and will let us know haha.

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                        @african-monkey said in Blues 2021:

                        @gt12 Maybe, or an Aussie team (which i doubt). I'm sure @Steven-Harris will know more and will let us know haha.

                        I suspect he may already know!

                        I’m not sure if he is available for a PI team, but Moana Pasifika would make sense to me.

                        It’d be pretty happy to see him move to the Chiefs, but I think we have enough in our squad that it likely wouldn’t be in his best interest.

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                          https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1406756623083733004

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                            https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1406756623083733004

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                            @kiwimurph

                            That's a good pick up for the Blues.

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                              @kiwimurph

                              That's a good pick up for the Blues.

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                              @gt12 And not a positive message to some good youngsters coming through.

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                                @gt12 And not a positive message to some good youngsters coming through.

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                                @stargazer said in Blues 2021:

                                @gt12 And not a positive message to some good youngsters coming through.

                                Who do the Blues have signed? Eklund, Riccitelli, and Vikena sounds like a good enough trio.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @gt12 And not a positive message to some good youngsters coming through.

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                                  @stargazer said in Blues 2021:

                                  @gt12 And not a positive message to some good youngsters coming through.

                                  Vikena is already signed multiple years.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @kiwimurph

                                    That's a good pick up for the Blues.

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                                    @gt12 Ricky Riccitelli is a good option I think. With Ekland and Vikena contracted Niuia must be off overseas or to Moana Pacifika? With Vikena
                                    only 19 years old Riccitelli gives them a sound experienced option so they can balance Vikena's game time as he grows and learns. Riccitelli is still only 26 so his best years as a hooker should be from now on. He will enjoy packing down between all those All Black Props!

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                                      @gt12 Ricky Riccitelli is a good option I think. With Ekland and Vikena contracted Niuia must be off overseas or to Moana Pacifika? With Vikena
                                      only 19 years old Riccitelli gives them a sound experienced option so they can balance Vikena's game time as he grows and learns. Riccitelli is still only 26 so his best years as a hooker should be from now on. He will enjoy packing down between all those All Black Props!

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                                      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2021:

                                      @gt12 Ricky Riccitelli is a good option I think. With Ekland and Vikena contracted Niuia must be off overseas or to Moana Pacifika? With Vikena
                                      only 19 years old Riccitelli gives them a sound experienced option so they can balance Vikena's game time as he grows and learns. Riccitelli is still only 26 so his best years as a hooker should be from now on. He will enjoy packing down between all those All Black Props!

                                      Agreed. It means that they have three options they can use and another genuine starting competition while they bring through Vikena. And, they can use the development team for youngsters, not sure I see what issue @Stargazer has with this one?

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        Luteru Tolai not good enough?

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                                          @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2021:

                                          @gt12 Ricky Riccitelli is a good option I think. With Ekland and Vikena contracted Niuia must be off overseas or to Moana Pacifika? With Vikena
                                          only 19 years old Riccitelli gives them a sound experienced option so they can balance Vikena's game time as he grows and learns. Riccitelli is still only 26 so his best years as a hooker should be from now on. He will enjoy packing down between all those All Black Props!

                                          Agreed. It means that they have three options they can use and another genuine starting competition while they bring through Vikena. And, they can use the development team for youngsters, not sure I see what issue @Stargazer has with this one?

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                                          @gt12 said in Blues 2021:

                                          @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2021:

                                          @gt12 Ricky Riccitelli is a good option I think. With Ekland and Vikena contracted Niuia must be off overseas or to Moana Pacifika? With Vikena
                                          only 19 years old Riccitelli gives them a sound experienced option so they can balance Vikena's game time as he grows and learns. Riccitelli is still only 26 so his best years as a hooker should be from now on. He will enjoy packing down between all those All Black Props!

                                          Agreed. It means that they have three options they can use and another genuine starting competition while they bring through Vikena. And, they can use the development team for youngsters, not sure I see what issue @Stargazer has with this one?

                                          There is not an issue.

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