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Blues 2021

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  • C cliff

    @steven-harris then probably to replace tahuriorangi or is Weber leaving?

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    @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

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      Also, Ruru's super fit, a University man, and hugely influential on Auckland's performances - he's probably an important part of squad leadership.

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        Also, Ruru's super fit, a University man, and hugely influential on Auckland's performances - he's probably an important part of squad leadership.

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        @tim makes you wonder if Blake Gibson is off to the chiefs as well with Boshier on the move ..?

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          @tim makes you wonder if Blake Gibson is off to the chiefs as well with Boshier on the move ..?

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          @steven-harris That was my thought, but Liam Napier said in the Herald today that he was going to the Hurricanes.

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            @steven-harris That was my thought, but Liam Napier said in the Herald today that he was going to the Hurricanes.

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            @tim 1 year deal with the Canes then sayonara

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              @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

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              @steven-harris said in Blues 2021:

              @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

              I wouldn't blame Weber but as I mentioned previously he is 2 games short of 100 for the Chiefs. If milestones mean something to him he might re-sign for 1 more year. TTT is really in the dogbox but not sure when his contract is up.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @steven-harris said in Blues 2021:

                @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

                I wouldn't blame Weber but as I mentioned previously he is 2 games short of 100 for the Chiefs. If milestones mean something to him he might re-sign for 1 more year. TTT is really in the dogbox but not sure when his contract is up.

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                @bovidae said in Blues 2021:

                TTT is really in the dogbox but not sure when his contract is up.

                Would be very disappointed if we signed that guy. Living on reputation for at least 3 years now.

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                  @tim 1 year deal with the Canes then sayonara

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                  @bovidae said in Blues 2021:

                  @steven-harris said in Blues 2021:

                  @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

                  I wouldn't blame Weber but as I mentioned previously he is 2 games short of 100 for the Chiefs. If milestones mean something to him he might re-sign for 1 more year. TTT is really in the dogbox but not sure when his contract is up.

                  TTT's contract expires this year.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @bovidae said in Blues 2021:

                    @steven-harris said in Blues 2021:

                    @cliff Weber’s NZ contract comes to end this year and at 30 years old it’s probably time to cash up ..

                    I wouldn't blame Weber but as I mentioned previously he is 2 games short of 100 for the Chiefs. If milestones mean something to him he might re-sign for 1 more year. TTT is really in the dogbox but not sure when his contract is up.

                    TTT's contract expires this year.

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                    @stargazer He's talking about Blake Gibson.

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                      Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @stargazer He's talking about Blake Gibson.

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                        @tim Sorry, I quoted the wrong post. Have amended my post.

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                        • C cliff

                          Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

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                          @cliff said in Blues 2021:

                          Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

                          And Christie

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                            Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

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                            @cliff said in Blues 2021:

                            Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

                            from teh outside:

                            • Sam has a better pass and kicking game.
                            • Finlay's work rate and defence is better
                            • Ruru's ruck work is better

                            so it's up to the coaches to mix and match. Nock got a few games, but I'm surprised he isn't favourered. Honestly even more surprised that Christie made the AB squad - shows the lack of depth there 😐

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                              @cliff said in Blues 2021:

                              Sam nock has really grown as a player and the lack opportunities at the blues is baffling he is miles better than ruru

                              from teh outside:

                              • Sam has a better pass and kicking game.
                              • Finlay's work rate and defence is better
                              • Ruru's ruck work is better

                              so it's up to the coaches to mix and match. Nock got a few games, but I'm surprised he isn't favourered. Honestly even more surprised that Christie made the AB squad - shows the lack of depth there 😐

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                              @nzzp as has been my criticism all year, selection consistency (given how many games Black and Sotutu started either side of 9)

                              Look at where being selected week in week out got Christie as opposed to the chopping and changing they did for most of the Aotearoa Championship.

                              I dont think Leon has forgiven Nock for whatever rule he broke last year

                              If true Nock is off to the chiefs, having Reihana running at 10 in NPC could be very good for both of them.

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                                Just heard a rumour that Mitch Karpik's heading to the Blues next year. Could be bullshit as the mate who told me is a bit notorious for chatting shit.

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                                  @nzzp as has been my criticism all year, selection consistency (given how many games Black and Sotutu started either side of 9)

                                  Look at where being selected week in week out got Christie as opposed to the chopping and changing they did for most of the Aotearoa Championship.

                                  I dont think Leon has forgiven Nock for whatever rule he broke last year

                                  If true Nock is off to the chiefs, having Reihana running at 10 in NPC could be very good for both of them.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                  @nzzp as has been my criticism all year, selection consistency (given how many games Black and Sotutu started either side of 9)

                                  Look at where being selected week in week out got Christie as opposed to the chopping and changing they did for most of the Aotearoa Championship.

                                  I dont think Leon has forgiven Nock for whatever rule he broke last year

                                  If true Nock is off to the chiefs, having Reihana running at 10 in NPC could be very good for both of them.

                                  Christie has been the first choice for a while, was injured and didn’t play as well when he came back. Once he got over that Nock and Ruru were playing for the impact sub role.

                                  Ruru comfortably outplayed Nock in those opportunities. He has no one to blame but himself. Ruru also was the fittest in the team and Leon was talking about how much extra training Christie was doing.

                                  I guess Nock wasn’t?

                                  I’ve lost count of how many coaches have had the same opinion of Nock now too. Oh and Nock got injured last year in a fight, so that was the rule he broke. Dumb.

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                                    Just heard a rumour that Mitch Karpik's heading to the Blues next year. Could be bullshit as the mate who told me is a bit notorious for chatting shit.

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                                    @yeetyaah haha as a chiefs fan I hope it's true good player with good workrate but undersized and often injured more like gibson

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                                      I'd rather Blues sign Choat to replace Gibson

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                                        I'd rather Blues sign Choat to replace Gibson

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                                        @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                                        I'd rather Blues sign Choat to replace Gibson

                                        I so hope that we've signed Choat and you get Karpik.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                          @nzzp as has been my criticism all year, selection consistency (given how many games Black and Sotutu started either side of 9)

                                          Look at where being selected week in week out got Christie as opposed to the chopping and changing they did for most of the Aotearoa Championship.

                                          I dont think Leon has forgiven Nock for whatever rule he broke last year

                                          If true Nock is off to the chiefs, having Reihana running at 10 in NPC could be very good for both of them.

                                          Christie has been the first choice for a while, was injured and didn’t play as well when he came back. Once he got over that Nock and Ruru were playing for the impact sub role.

                                          Ruru comfortably outplayed Nock in those opportunities. He has no one to blame but himself. Ruru also was the fittest in the team and Leon was talking about how much extra training Christie was doing.

                                          I guess Nock wasn’t?

                                          I’ve lost count of how many coaches have had the same opinion of Nock now too. Oh and Nock got injured last year in a fight, so that was the rule he broke. Dumb.

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                                          @kirwan pretty sure Nock was right behind Ruru in most of the fitness stuff, so I dont think fitness was ever an issue, I know from talking to his dad how much he works on things, so that isnt an issue.

                                          My guess is, there was more to it, maybe a personality clash, and/or whatever happened last year (of which I am sure you must know ALL the facts...) Leon had decided Nock wasnt his 9, as to Ruru outplaying him 'comfortably', subjective.

                                          And again, I havent been promoting for Nock to start over Ruru or Christie, I have been promoting for Leon to be consistent with his 9 to start rather than the chopping and changing he did for most of SRA, so trying to pick a fight over me being a Northlander and Nock being from Northland has never been what it was about for me.

                                          Go back to pre-season, I was even talking about needing to pick a 9 and stick with him and not chop and change back then (as Leon has done for years)

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