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EPL 2020/2021

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    weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

    Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.

    Plus Fulham were robbed šŸ™‚

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

      Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.

      Plus Fulham were robbed šŸ™‚

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      @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

      weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

      i wouldn't have thought so, Liverpool had fallen apart well before then

      But yes, at the start of the season City were mid-table and everyone was calling them finished. They then went on one of those long strings of winning they tend to do and just moved past everyone

      kinda surprised by the result this morning. Changes absolutely nothing for either team though.

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

        Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.

        Plus Fulham were robbed šŸ™‚

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        @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

        weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

        Vity won because they had the best squad which became crucial in such a busy year wih no off season. Pep seemed to have lost the dressing room earlkier in the season but relaxed and allowed the rest of the coaching team to have more say and the players found their mojo.

        Plus Fulham were robbed šŸ™‚

        I think Spurs were on top at Xmas, then we fell apart

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          It does make the Chelsea-Leicester City game very important now. A contrived 0-0 draw. šŸ˜‰

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

            weren't Liverpool top at Xmas and I seem to remember people were writing Pep's obituaries in about October.

            i wouldn't have thought so, Liverpool had fallen apart well before then

            But yes, at the start of the season City were mid-table and everyone was calling them finished. They then went on one of those long strings of winning they tend to do and just moved past everyone

            kinda surprised by the result this morning. Changes absolutely nothing for either team though.

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            @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

            Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

            https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

            Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

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            • dogmeatD dogmeat

              @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

              Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

              https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

              Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

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              @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

              @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

              Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

              https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

              Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

              well how about that! 2021 must have sucked!

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

                Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

                https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

                Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

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                @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

                @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

                Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

                https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

                Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

                The whole season was skewed because of the late start so being top at Christmas was not the same as being top at halfway which it usually is.

                This article from 22 Dec https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/12/22/premier-league-festive-season-table-liverpool-tottenham-man-united didn't even mention City. And this article https://www.givemesport.com/1631326-premier-league-supercomputer-has-predicted-the-final-league-table-based-on-christmas-standings has an outstanding "SUPERCOMPUTER" prediction.

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                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

                  @mariner4life Found it Liverpool were 4 points clear at Xmas

                  Hilarious article with hindsight - Liverpool looking ominous - who can stop them - best depth in league

                  https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4271594/why-liverpool-topping-the-premier-league-at-christmas-is-so-ominous-for-their-rivals-this-season

                  Article does say that only 3 times in 12 seasons had the team that was top at Xmas not won the league and that on all three occasions it was Liverpool. Make that 4/13 now. Not a record you'd want!

                  The whole season was skewed because of the late start so being top at Christmas was not the same as being top at halfway which it usually is.

                  This article from 22 Dec https://www.si.com/soccer/2020/12/22/premier-league-festive-season-table-liverpool-tottenham-man-united didn't even mention City. And this article https://www.givemesport.com/1631326-premier-league-supercomputer-has-predicted-the-final-league-table-based-on-christmas-standings has an outstanding "SUPERCOMPUTER" prediction.

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                  @kiwipie I would love to know what variables they tried creating the supposed algorythm, although they did pick they did pick Fulham to go down šŸ™‚

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                    @kiwipie I would love to know what variables they tried creating the supposed algorythm, although they did pick they did pick Fulham to go down šŸ™‚

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                    @bayimports I think they assumed that form up to that point would continue afterwards!

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                      @kiwipie I would love to know what variables they tried creating the supposed algorythm, although they did pick they did pick Fulham to go down šŸ™‚

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                      @bayimports

                      Prediction is on the right hand side so they've actually picked them to finish ahead of arsenal

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                        @bayimports

                        Prediction is on the right hand side so they've actually picked them to finish ahead of arsenal

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                        @cyclops said in EPL 2020/2021:

                        @bayimports

                        Prediction is on the right hand side so they've actually picked them to finish ahead of arsenal

                        ha ha my bad.. good spotting its clearly farked

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Kane needs to move somewhere. City is as good a place as any if Pep doesn't stick with playing a false 9.

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                          @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

                          Kane needs to move somewhere. City is as good a place as any if Pep doesn't stick with playing a false 9.

                          I think he would be perfect for City because he isn't just a goal hanger. They would be able to play off him and his passing is good enough to put players in.

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                            So given that Champion's League qualification is worth so much cash and both Leicester and Chelsea have Liverpool breathing down their necks, is there a chance they will both play the FA Cup final with an eye to having their strongest side fresh for their EPL clash 3 days later?

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                              So given that Champion's League qualification is worth so much cash and both Leicester and Chelsea have Liverpool breathing down their necks, is there a chance they will both play the FA Cup final with an eye to having their strongest side fresh for their EPL clash 3 days later?

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                              @kiwipie
                              Yeah, I think they have to. Liverpool look like favourites to finish top 4 if they can win out (which isn't a gimme, but all their games are winnable and none of their opponents have relegation or European implications), with Leicester better off with a draw.

                              I guess Chelsea also have the champions league to hope for. Would be a bitter pill to win FA cup but then lose top 4 and champions league final and be in Europa next year.

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                                Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.

                                Stoked for Leicester all the same.

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                                  Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.

                                  Stoked for Leicester all the same.

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                                  @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                  Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.

                                  Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                  I think VAR needs to give some leniency to the attacker. Harry Kane got one disallowed last week because his toe might have been over the line

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    Gee. I know he was an offside but it’s an inch. In terms of football I don’t think we need that level of accuracy.

                                    Stoked for Leicester all the same.

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                                    @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                    Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                    Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

                                    I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

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                                      @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                      Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                      Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

                                      I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

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                                      @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                      @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                      Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                      Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

                                      I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

                                      Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

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                                        @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                        @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                        Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                        Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

                                        I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

                                        Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

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                                        @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                        @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                        @hooroo said in EPL 2020/2021:

                                        Stoked for Leicester all the same.

                                        Me too. A couple of great saves from Schmeichel at the end.

                                        I always like to see a team win a trophy for the first time. They had lost in the FA Cup final four times previously.

                                        Fully and you can see it still means something. I forgot it was on and just happened to catch it while channel surfing. Thank fuck.

                                        It's been an emotional day. Watching the basketball HoF induction ceremony had me misty eyed for ages, there were some feel good stories on the news including a former con who ran an ultramarathon to raise money for kids in Huntly who has now inspired some of the kids to run events, and a guy on the spectrum who has developed people skills and personal growth after starting as the waterboy for the Hutt Valley High first 15 who is now the full time manager and an inspiration to the school. And finally they showed an old guy Leicester supporter being interviewed outside Wembley before the final who couldn't even get words out without breaking down 😭

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                                          Five massive talking points after that final.

                                          1. A great goal from Tielemans. Almost the perfect shot from that distance.

                                          2. Superb save by Kasper Schmeichel. One of great FA Cup final saves.

                                          3. A very controversial VAR decision to deny Chelsea an equaliser. Surely the technology should only intervene if there is a clear and obvious mistake by the on-field officials? Harsh decision IMHO.

                                          4. First time winners after 4 losing finals. Leicester City fans clearly felt an enormous monkey had come off their backs. Interesting to see where their club goes from here.

                                          5. Brendan Rogers has established himself as one of the very best managers in the game. Still only 48. I think a lot of big clubs will chasing his services.

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