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Hurricanes 2021

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    @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

    We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

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    @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

    We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

    You've just described Simon Hickey - who they signed.

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      You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

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      @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

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      You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

      I thought Leger was added as midfield cover. The f@ct that he covers 10 adequately is a bonus.

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        @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

        We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

        You've just described Simon Hickey - who they signed.

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        @KiwiMurph said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

        We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

        You've just described Simon Hickey - who they signed.

        Agree. And he's already injured. But Hickey looks much stronger than McClutchie. And maybe he was brought in for his experience and as a good fun team man who can start if required. With the longer term option seen as Love

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          And here's an old article on Roigard. Hard to really access three players over two weeks. But will see if he is really an option soon. It doesn't reflect too well though on the other 2 contenders that a three option is being considered

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/sport/103703136/cameron-roigard-comfortable-at-halfback-but-looks-good-at-firstfive-too

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

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            You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

            I thought Leger was added as midfield cover. The f@ct that he covers 10 adequately is a bonus.

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            @Crucial said in 2021 Hurricanes:

            @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

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            You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

            I thought Leger was added as midfield cover. The f@ct that he covers 10 adequately is a bonus.

            But isn’t that why Ray Nu’a was added for the pre season to cover midfield?

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            • WingerW Winger

              @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

              You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

              We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

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              @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

              @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

              You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

              We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

              He’s 5kgs lighter then Love and 1 mm taller I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard for him to bulk on 10 kgs if that was the issue.

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                @Crucial said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

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                You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

                I thought Leger was added as midfield cover. The f@ct that he covers 10 adequately is a bonus.

                But isn’t that why Ray Nu’a was added for the pre season to cover midfield?

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                @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                @Crucial said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

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                You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

                I thought Leger was added as midfield cover. The f@ct that he covers 10 adequately is a bonus.

                But isn’t that why Ray Nu’a was added for the pre season to cover midfield?

                The press release from CM had him joining as a midfielder and I seem to recall the same from the Canes.
                Might even be further back in this thread

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                  @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  You have to feel for McClutchie in this article bringing in Orbyn as injury cover when he’s not a 10, the management seem like they don’t have a clue if we can all see it how can they not.

                  We can all see it. This applies to Blackwell (a Wellington player) starting week after week. But isn't McClutchie a bit on the fragile or small side for super rugby. He just looks like a NPC level player that would struggle to step up week after week if required. And that what a team needs.

                  He’s 5kgs lighter then Love and 1 mm taller I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard for him to bulk on 10 kgs if that was the issue.

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                  @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

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                    @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                    @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

                    1.83 and 1.78cm? Haha, classic mistake! That would make them smaller than 2cm! Replace the cm with m and you're correct, although those numbers from McClutchie are old, so he may be a bit heavier now.

                    Even if correct, then he's only 2cm smaller and 2kg heavier than Mo'unga, who's an outstanding 10, so McClutchie is definitely not too small or fragile for Super Rugby as someone suggested earlier in the thread.

                    Oh, and Simon Hickey is also 174cm, and 83kg.

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                      @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                      @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

                      1.83 and 1.78cm? Haha, classic mistake! That would make them smaller than 2cm! Replace the cm with m and you're correct, although those numbers from McClutchie are old, so he may be a bit heavier now.

                      Even if correct, then he's only 2cm smaller and 2kg heavier than Mo'unga, who's an outstanding 10, so McClutchie is definitely not too small or fragile for Super Rugby as someone suggested earlier in the thread.

                      Oh, and Simon Hickey is also 174cm, and 83kg.

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                      @Stargazer haha oops.

                      I think Lincoln has the goods to be a Super level first five and I prefer him to someone like Orbyn.

                      Hopefully he can find a little more consistency in his game during this year’s Mitre 10 Cup to force selection into one of the five NZ conferences.

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                        Just something I read the other day, Tommy Gentles - a Springbok halfback on their 1956 tour - was 1.6 metres and 61kgs!

                        Played 2 of the tests against the ABs.

                        Tiny even in those days.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

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                          @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                          @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

                          That’s what I found by googling it

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                            @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @mikey07 lol where are you getting those stats from? Love is 90kg, 1.83cm and McClutchie is 1.74cm 85kg.

                            1.83 and 1.78cm? Haha, classic mistake! That would make them smaller than 2cm! Replace the cm with m and you're correct, although those numbers from McClutchie are old, so he may be a bit heavier now.

                            Even if correct, then he's only 2cm smaller and 2kg heavier than Mo'unga, who's an outstanding 10, so McClutchie is definitely not too small or fragile for Super Rugby as someone suggested earlier in the thread.

                            Oh, and Simon Hickey is also 174cm, and 83kg.

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                            @Stargazer That’s a Wainui High education for you only went there to eat my lunch and play Rugby 😂

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Stargazer haha oops.

                              I think Lincoln has the goods to be a Super level first five and I prefer him to someone like Orbyn.

                              Hopefully he can find a little more consistency in his game during this year’s Mitre 10 Cup to force selection into one of the five NZ conferences.

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                              @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Stargazer haha oops.

                              I think Lincoln has the goods to be a Super level first five and I prefer him to someone like Orbyn.

                              Hopefully he can find a little more consistency in his game during this year’s Mitre 10 Cup to force selection into one of the five NZ conferences.

                              Its not only his physical qualities. He also seems a bit too nice. Maybe a bit soft on the emotional front. Fakatava is the other extreme. Maybe a bit too cocky. But too cocky can be calmed down a bit. Its a good quality although can lead to problems if its not handled right. Emotional soft is another issue

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                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300231988/super-rugby-aotearoa-new-hurricanes-recruit-simon-hickeys-season-over-with-knee-injury

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                                  So who will they bring in? I hope we don’t persist with Orbyn Leger. Lincoln McClutchie might finally get a gig but I doubt it.

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                                    So who will they bring in? I hope we don’t persist with Orbyn Leger. Lincoln McClutchie might finally get a gig but I doubt it.

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                                    @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                    So who will they bring in? I hope we don’t persist with Orbyn Leger. Lincoln McClutchie might finally get a gig but I doubt it.

                                    Sounds like a character out of Game of Thrones.

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                                      @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                      So who will they bring in? I hope we don’t persist with Orbyn Leger. Lincoln McClutchie might finally get a gig but I doubt it.

                                      Sounds like a character out of Game of Thrones.

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                                      @MN5 looks like one to with that afro.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        So who will they bring in? I hope we don’t persist with Orbyn Leger. Lincoln McClutchie might finally get a gig but I doubt it.

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                                        @Canes4life the article states the Leger looks likely to get a full time contract

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300231988/super-rugby-aotearoa-new-hurricanes-recruit-simon-hickeys-season-over-with-knee-injury

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                                          @KiwiMurph Wow all this talk about how awesome he’s going to be blah blah...real good recruitment Ben I don’t know about anyone else but I’m quite pissed off with the whole situation.

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