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Hurricanes 2021

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @bovidae the Canes have a fairly solid squad other than their halves so JGB simply needs to step up or the Canes could face a fairly miserable 2021 campaign.

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    @bovidae the Canes face a miserable 2021 campaign.

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      Any injury updates for round 1?

      I saw Peter Umaga-Jensen had his first child so that explains why he wasn't in Alexandra.

      I assume Coles will slot back into the 23, whether that be straight into the starting side or in the way of easing him back in off the bench.

      Not sure why we haven't seen the likes of Walker-Leawere, Evans and Leaupepe yet? I assume they are all injured?

      Anyone have the inside word?

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      • canefanC canefan

        @stargazer I thought he looked decent last year until his opportunities dried up. As for the canes? Not going to be pretty

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        @canefan said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        @stargazer I thought he looked decent last year until his opportunities dried up. As for the canes? Not going to be pretty

        At 1st 5 I thought he was awful to start and the best he got to was adequate. He was VG at FB

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Re-signed: Fraser Armstrong (2021)

          https://www.instagram.com/p/CE0a7jTjgxR/

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          I don't expect much this year. But maybe I'm too pessimistic. The biggest issue for me is I don't rate the coaches.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124315696/super-rugby-aotearoa-preview-no-tj-perenara-halves-injury-crisis-the-hurricanes-big-challenge

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            I don't expect much this year. But maybe I'm too pessimistic. The biggest issue for me is I don't rate the coaches.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124315696/super-rugby-aotearoa-preview-no-tj-perenara-halves-injury-crisis-the-hurricanes-big-challenge

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            @winger yeah it's hard to get past the fact they can't spot Super level talent. I feel there needs to be a huge cleanout at the Canes. Some of those coaches have been there far too long, plus it wouldn't hurt bringing in coaches that have a new perspective and no favouritism towards certain players.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @winger yeah it's hard to get past the fact they can't spot Super level talent. I feel there needs to be a huge cleanout at the Canes. Some of those coaches have been there far too long, plus it wouldn't hurt bringing in coaches that have a new perspective and no favouritism towards certain players.

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              @canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

              @winger yeah it's hard to get past the fact they can't spot Super level talent. I feel there needs to be a huge cleanout at the Canes. Some of those coaches have been there far too long, plus it wouldn't hurt bringing in coaches that have a new perspective and no favouritism towards certain players.

              Holland was there for 5 minutes and he was HC wasn't he? Our golden era is well and truly over, Winter is coming

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                @canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                @winger yeah it's hard to get past the fact they can't spot Super level talent. I feel there needs to be a huge cleanout at the Canes. Some of those coaches have been there far too long, plus it wouldn't hurt bringing in coaches that have a new perspective and no favouritism towards certain players.

                Holland was there for 5 minutes and he was HC wasn't he? Our golden era is well and truly over, Winter is coming

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                @canefan They also hired Cory Jane with only one year experience as Wellington Assistant Coach, and now Bleyendaal with nearly no coaching experience.

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                  @canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  @winger yeah it's hard to get past the fact they can't spot Super level talent. I feel there needs to be a huge cleanout at the Canes. Some of those coaches have been there far too long, plus it wouldn't hurt bringing in coaches that have a new perspective and no favouritism towards certain players.

                  Holland was there for 5 minutes and he was HC wasn't he? Our golden era is well and truly over, Winter is coming

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                  @canefan he only got the gig because Plumtree moved into the All Blacks. Coach by default really and now he’s got f all experience around him.

                  Funny that you saw and heard from CEO Avan Lee almost every week when we were doing well vs now where he’s hardly made a peep in the last year.

                  They seem like a bunch of tugboats behind the scenes.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @canefan he only got the gig because Plumtree moved into the All Blacks. Coach by default really and now he’s got f all experience around him.

                    Funny that you saw and heard from CEO Avan Lee almost every week when we were doing well vs now where he’s hardly made a peep in the last year.

                    They seem like a bunch of tugboats behind the scenes.

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                    @canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                    @canefan he only got the gig because Plumtree moved into the All Blacks. Coach by default really and now he’s got f all experience around him.

                    Funny that you saw and heard from CEO Avan Lee almost every week when we were doing well vs now where he’s hardly made a peep in the last year.

                    They seem like a bunch of tugboats behind the scenes.

                    I wasn't totally convinced by Plumtree either, Boyd got pushed out by some gentlemen's deal. Might be time for a culture change

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                      @canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                      @canefan he only got the gig because Plumtree moved into the All Blacks. Coach by default really and now he’s got f all experience around him.

                      Funny that you saw and heard from CEO Avan Lee almost every week when we were doing well vs now where he’s hardly made a peep in the last year.

                      They seem like a bunch of tugboats behind the scenes.

                      I wasn't totally convinced by Plumtree either, Boyd got pushed out by some gentlemen's deal. Might be time for a culture change

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                      @canefan haha no thank you.

                      I think the culture from a player point of view is fine. It’s more of a case of cleaning out the administration of the Canes and getting people in there that will improve the organisation rather than hinder it through poor recruitment and coaching.

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                        There has been a turnover of coaches since the Boyd/Plumtree years. Watt also left, and Spencer exited last year. Is Dan Cron still there?

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          There has been a turnover of coaches since the Boyd/Plumtree years. Watt also left, and Spencer exited last year. Is Dan Cron still there?

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                          @bovidae Cron is still there but I don’t think he should be. They should have done a complete clean out when Holland was appointed.

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                            @bovidae Cron is still there but I don’t think he should be. They should have done a complete clean out when Holland was appointed.

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                            @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

                            @bovidae Cron is still there but I don’t think he should be. They should have done a complete clean out when Holland was appointed.

                            Holland was never chosen as the HC in the first place. They should have flushed the whole setup. But the timing was poor, right before the season was to start, the board were backed into a corner. I suppose now he is coach, keeping him felt like the path of least resistance

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                              Saturday, 27 February 2021 at Porirua Park (Jerry Collins Stadium)

                              12.30pm: Wellington Development v Manawatu
                              2.15pm: Hurricanes Development v WRFU Team 1 (not sure which team that is)

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                                The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. 🙄

                                Hunters:

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                                Regional XV:

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                                Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                                  The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. 🙄

                                  Hunters:

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                                  Regional XV:

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                                  Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                                  @stargazer

                                  Interesting how Roigard and Leger go. As injuries could see them in the starting team or reserves. Leger starting. Or would Barrett be moved to first with an injury to JGB

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. 🙄

                                    Hunters:

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                                    Regional XV:

                                    alt text

                                    Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                                    @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

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                                      @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

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                                      @yeetyaah I doubt that given the team has has been selected for, as a bench player no less, looks to be about the 4th XV. Stargazer will be having heart palpitations about that level of ranking.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. 🙄

                                        Hunters:

                                        alt text


                                        Regional XV:

                                        alt text

                                        Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                                        @stargazer good news, seemed very odd not to have him on the bench.

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                                          @yeetyaah I doubt that given the team has has been selected for, as a bench player no less, looks to be about the 4th XV. Stargazer will be having heart palpitations about that level of ranking.

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                                          @higgins Uhm, see what I wrote in the post with the line-ups ... (especially the eyerolling emoji for extra effect).

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