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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @bovidae Cron is still there but I don’t think he should be. They should have done a complete clean out when Holland was appointed.

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    @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @bovidae Cron is still there but I don’t think he should be. They should have done a complete clean out when Holland was appointed.

    Holland was never chosen as the HC in the first place. They should have flushed the whole setup. But the timing was poor, right before the season was to start, the board were backed into a corner. I suppose now he is coach, keeping him felt like the path of least resistance

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      Saturday, 27 February 2021 at Porirua Park (Jerry Collins Stadium)

      12.30pm: Wellington Development v Manawatu
      2.15pm: Hurricanes Development v WRFU Team 1 (not sure which team that is)

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        The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. šŸ™„

        Hunters:

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        Regional XV:

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        Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. šŸ™„

          Hunters:

          alt text


          Regional XV:

          alt text

          Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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          @stargazer

          Interesting how Roigard and Leger go. As injuries could see them in the starting team or reserves. Leger starting. Or would Barrett be moved to first with an injury to JGB

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. šŸ™„

            Hunters:

            alt text


            Regional XV:

            alt text

            Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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            @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

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              @yeetyaah I doubt that given the team has has been selected for, as a bench player no less, looks to be about the 4th XV. Stargazer will be having heart palpitations about that level of ranking.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. šŸ™„

                Hunters:

                alt text


                Regional XV:

                alt text

                Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                @stargazer good news, seemed very odd not to have him on the bench.

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  @yeetyaah I doubt that given the team has has been selected for, as a bench player no less, looks to be about the 4th XV. Stargazer will be having heart palpitations about that level of ranking.

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                  @higgins Uhm, see what I wrote in the post with the line-ups ... (especially the eyerolling emoji for extra effect).

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                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                    @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

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                    @yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2021:

                    @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

                    McClutchie was in the Hurricanes Under 18 (2018) and Hurricanes Under 20 (2019). They've obviously made their mind up subsequently they don't want him.

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                      @yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2021:

                      @stargazer holy fucking shit, McClutchie involved with the Hurricanes? Maybe they can recognize talent within their regions?

                      McClutchie was in the Hurricanes Under 18 (2018) and Hurricanes Under 20 (2019). They've obviously made their mind up subsequently they don't want him.

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                      @number-10 I heard he was offered a Hurricanes development contract for last year, but he went to Japan on a full contract instead (don't know whether they offered the development contract before or after he signed the Japanese contract). I think that is a more likely reason.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        The Hurricanes have named two teams for Saturday's 2.15pm game. A Hurricanes Hunters team and a Regional XV, which seems to be mostly a team of of players that didn't make the Hurricanes WTG. So basically a Hurricanes 2nd XV against a Hurricanes 3rd XV. Lincoln McClutchie just made bench of the 3rd XV. šŸ™„

                        Hunters:

                        alt text


                        Regional XV:

                        alt text

                        Edited to add that you can conclude from this that Evans, Walker-Leawere and Kane Le'aupepe are injured.

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                            Why did you delete your comment @Canes4life ? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                              Why did you delete your comment @Canes4life ? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                              @dice haha I read the name of those teams wrong initially. My bad. šŸ˜‚

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                                We just returned from that Hunters v Regional XV game.

                                I'll start with the bad news.

                                At the end of the first half, I witnessed a big collission between a Hunters player and some of the big opposition forwards. It didn't end well for the Hunter, who I think was knocked out. It wasn't foul play (in fact, the Regional XV got the penalty), just accidental. After what seemed like a long time, I finally saw the player move his legs which is a good sign, but by then he was already wearing a neck brace. He was stretchered off the field after 15 minutes and left in an ambulance. At first I couldn't see who it was, except that the player had red hair. That narrowed it down to Ruben Love and James O'Reilly. I think I heard someone say "Rubes" and that was confirmed at the beginning of the second half, when I saw O'Reilly standing on the sideline.

                                So it looks like Ruben Love may be out for a while, with either concussion or a neck injury.

                                Now, briefly about the game. It was closer than the full time score suggests, particularly in the first half. In fact, for most of the first half, Regional XV was ahead on the scoreboard. At the end of the first half, fatigue started setting in, and the Hunters scored a few quick tries, giving them a 22 - 17 lead at half time.

                                The Hunters had the upperhand in the second half (having changed the entire frontrow at the break), but not significantly, until Regional XV changed its frontrow around the 60 minutes mark. From then on, the Hunters' scrum was much better and that of the Regional side crumbled. The fact that it didn't become a blow-out score was due to some good defence from Regional XV, who still managed to score a try in that second spell.

                                I'll only mention a few players; I couldn't look at all of them.

                                In the first half hour, Patafilo stood out in the Hunters' backline. Visinia was also good.Orbyn Leger didnt play, so Morgan started at 10 and he struggled a bit. He missed all three conversions and then Toala took over the kicking, with more success. I'm not blaming Morgan for the average first half, but he has definitely still a lot to learn. I didn't notice Aso much until the end of the first half, when he scored a try. Toala was outstanding, easily the best back from approx. the 30-minute mark. He limped a bit at the end of the second half, but continued playing. Of the pack, Mitchell and Laubscher looked handy.

                                In the second half, the Hunters dominated more, but it's hard to say who can take the credit for that. Part of it was just Regional XV going down a level once their reserve forwards came on. Thompson looked strong.

                                About Regional XV, Kereru-Symes easily matched O'Reilly and had a great work-rate; line-outs went well. He was part of the reason why Regional XV played so well that firs half. The biggest surprise to me was LH prop Paula Latu, who scored the first try of the game. He was pretty fast. He held more than his own against Tavita Mafileo. Bas Visinia marking Danny Toala was interesting, but Toala doesn't have to fear for his spot in the Magpies squad. I didn't see exactly when McClutchie came on, but he did well in a Regional XV side that started struggling by then. He missed a conversion, but made some good clearing kicks and touch finders. Was also quite vocal on a couple of occasions, bossing his team mates haha.

                                I tried to see who the try scorers in the game were, but I may have one or two wrong (esp with some named players not playing and not knowing their replacements):

                                Hunters: Patafilo (2), Aso (2), Visinia, Laubscher and no. 19 (definitely not someone named Tuatuvalu) tries; Toala (2) con.

                                Reg XV: Wild (2), Latu, Tofa tries; Cruden con

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  We just returned from that Hunters v Regional XV game.

                                  I'll start with the bad news.

                                  At the end of the first half, I witnessed a big collission between a Hunters player and some of the big opposition forwards. It didn't end well for the Hunter, who I think was knocked out. It wasn't foul play (in fact, the Regional XV got the penalty), just accidental. After what seemed like a long time, I finally saw the player move his legs which is a good sign, but by then he was already wearing a neck brace. He was stretchered off the field after 15 minutes and left in an ambulance. At first I couldn't see who it was, except that the player had red hair. That narrowed it down to Ruben Love and James O'Reilly. I think I heard someone say "Rubes" and that was confirmed at the beginning of the second half, when I saw O'Reilly standing on the sideline.

                                  So it looks like Ruben Love may be out for a while, with either concussion or a neck injury.

                                  Now, briefly about the game. It was closer than the full time score suggests, particularly in the first half. In fact, for most of the first half, Regional XV was ahead on the scoreboard. At the end of the first half, fatigue started setting in, and the Hunters scored a few quick tries, giving them a 22 - 17 lead at half time.

                                  The Hunters had the upperhand in the second half (having changed the entire frontrow at the break), but not significantly, until Regional XV changed its frontrow around the 60 minutes mark. From then on, the Hunters' scrum was much better and that of the Regional side crumbled. The fact that it didn't become a blow-out score was due to some good defence from Regional XV, who still managed to score a try in that second spell.

                                  I'll only mention a few players; I couldn't look at all of them.

                                  In the first half hour, Patafilo stood out in the Hunters' backline. Visinia was also good.Orbyn Leger didnt play, so Morgan started at 10 and he struggled a bit. He missed all three conversions and then Toala took over the kicking, with more success. I'm not blaming Morgan for the average first half, but he has definitely still a lot to learn. I didn't notice Aso much until the end of the first half, when he scored a try. Toala was outstanding, easily the best back from approx. the 30-minute mark. He limped a bit at the end of the second half, but continued playing. Of the pack, Mitchell and Laubscher looked handy.

                                  In the second half, the Hunters dominated more, but it's hard to say who can take the credit for that. Part of it was just Regional XV going down a level once their reserve forwards came on. Thompson looked strong.

                                  About Regional XV, Kereru-Symes easily matched O'Reilly and had a great work-rate; line-outs went well. He was part of the reason why Regional XV played so well that firs half. The biggest surprise to me was LH prop Paula Latu, who scored the first try of the game. He was pretty fast. He held more than his own against Tavita Mafileo. Bas Visinia marking Danny Toala was interesting, but Toala doesn't have to fear for his spot in the Magpies squad. I didn't see exactly when McClutchie came on, but he did well in a Regional XV side that started struggling by then. He missed a conversion, but made some good clearing kicks and touch finders. Was also quite vocal on a couple of occasions, bossing his team mates haha.

                                  I tried to see who the try scorers in the game were, but I may have one or two wrong (esp with some named players not playing and not knowing their replacements):

                                  Hunters: Patafilo (2), Aso (2), Visinia, Laubscher and no. 19 (definitely not someone named Tuatuvalu) tries; Toala (2) con.

                                  Reg XV: Wild (2), Latu, Tofa tries; Cruden con

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                                  @stargazer sucks to hear about Ruben Love. He’s a future star of our game so I hope it isn’t serious.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @stargazer sucks to hear about Ruben Love. He’s a future star of our game so I hope it isn’t serious.

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                                    @canes4life It didn't look good. I'm reasonably sure it was him, also because Visinia moved to fullback in the 2nd half.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      We just returned from that Hunters v Regional XV game.

                                      I'll start with the bad news.

                                      At the end of the first half, I witnessed a big collission between a Hunters player and some of the big opposition forwards. It didn't end well for the Hunter, who I think was knocked out. It wasn't foul play (in fact, the Regional XV got the penalty), just accidental. After what seemed like a long time, I finally saw the player move his legs which is a good sign, but by then he was already wearing a neck brace. He was stretchered off the field after 15 minutes and left in an ambulance. At first I couldn't see who it was, except that the player had red hair. That narrowed it down to Ruben Love and James O'Reilly. I think I heard someone say "Rubes" and that was confirmed at the beginning of the second half, when I saw O'Reilly standing on the sideline.

                                      So it looks like Ruben Love may be out for a while, with either concussion or a neck injury.

                                      Now, briefly about the game. It was closer than the full time score suggests, particularly in the first half. In fact, for most of the first half, Regional XV was ahead on the scoreboard. At the end of the first half, fatigue started setting in, and the Hunters scored a few quick tries, giving them a 22 - 17 lead at half time.

                                      The Hunters had the upperhand in the second half (having changed the entire frontrow at the break), but not significantly, until Regional XV changed its frontrow around the 60 minutes mark. From then on, the Hunters' scrum was much better and that of the Regional side crumbled. The fact that it didn't become a blow-out score was due to some good defence from Regional XV, who still managed to score a try in that second spell.

                                      I'll only mention a few players; I couldn't look at all of them.

                                      In the first half hour, Patafilo stood out in the Hunters' backline. Visinia was also good.Orbyn Leger didnt play, so Morgan started at 10 and he struggled a bit. He missed all three conversions and then Toala took over the kicking, with more success. I'm not blaming Morgan for the average first half, but he has definitely still a lot to learn. I didn't notice Aso much until the end of the first half, when he scored a try. Toala was outstanding, easily the best back from approx. the 30-minute mark. He limped a bit at the end of the second half, but continued playing. Of the pack, Mitchell and Laubscher looked handy.

                                      In the second half, the Hunters dominated more, but it's hard to say who can take the credit for that. Part of it was just Regional XV going down a level once their reserve forwards came on. Thompson looked strong.

                                      About Regional XV, Kereru-Symes easily matched O'Reilly and had a great work-rate; line-outs went well. He was part of the reason why Regional XV played so well that firs half. The biggest surprise to me was LH prop Paula Latu, who scored the first try of the game. He was pretty fast. He held more than his own against Tavita Mafileo. Bas Visinia marking Danny Toala was interesting, but Toala doesn't have to fear for his spot in the Magpies squad. I didn't see exactly when McClutchie came on, but he did well in a Regional XV side that started struggling by then. He missed a conversion, but made some good clearing kicks and touch finders. Was also quite vocal on a couple of occasions, bossing his team mates haha.

                                      I tried to see who the try scorers in the game were, but I may have one or two wrong (esp with some named players not playing and not knowing their replacements):

                                      Hunters: Patafilo (2), Aso (2), Visinia, Laubscher and no. 19 (definitely not someone named Tuatuvalu) tries; Toala (2) con.

                                      Reg XV: Wild (2), Latu, Tofa tries; Cruden con

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                                      @stargazer said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                      We just returned from that Hunters v Regional XV game.

                                      I'll start with the bad news.

                                      At the end of the first half, I witnessed a big collission between a Hunters player and some of the big opposition forwards. It didn't end well for the Hunter, who I think was knocked out. It wasn't foul play (in fact, the Regional XV got the penalty), just accidental. After what seemed like a long time, I finally saw the player move his legs which is a good sign, but by then he was already wearing a neck brace. He was stretchered off the field after 15 minutes and left in an ambulance. At first I couldn't see who it was, except that the player had red hair. That narrowed it down to Ruben Love and James O'Reilly. I think I heard someone say "Rubes" and that was confirmed at the beginning of the second half, when I saw O'Reilly standing on the sideline.

                                      So it looks like Ruben Love may be out for a while, with either concussion or a neck injury.

                                      Now, briefly about the game. It was closer than the full time score suggests, particularly in the first half. In fact, for most of the first half, Regional XV was ahead on the scoreboard. At the end of the first half, fatigue started setting in, and the Hunters scored a few quick tries, giving them a 22 - 17 lead at half time.

                                      The Hunters had the upperhand in the second half (having changed the entire frontrow at the break), but not significantly, until Regional XV changed its frontrow around the 60 minutes mark. From then on, the Hunters' scrum was much better and that of the Regional side crumbled. The fact that it didn't become a blow-out score was due to some good defence from Regional XV, who still managed to score a try in that second spell.

                                      I'll only mention a few players; I couldn't look at all of them.

                                      In the first half hour, Patafilo stood out in the Hunters' backline. Visinia was also good.Orbyn Leger didnt play, so Morgan started at 10 and he struggled a bit. He missed all three conversions and then Toala took over the kicking, with more success. I'm not blaming Morgan for the average first half, but he has definitely still a lot to learn. I didn't notice Aso much until the end of the first half, when he scored a try. Toala was outstanding, easily the best back from approx. the 30-minute mark. He limped a bit at the end of the second half, but continued playing. Of the pack, Mitchell and Laubscher looked handy.

                                      In the second half, the Hunters dominated more, but it's hard to say who can take the credit for that. Part of it was just Regional XV going down a level once their reserve forwards came on. Thompson looked strong.

                                      About Regional XV, Kereru-Symes easily matched O'Reilly and had a great work-rate; line-outs went well. He was part of the reason why Regional XV played so well that firs half. The biggest surprise to me was LH prop Paula Latu, who scored the first try of the game. He was pretty fast. He held more than his own against Tavita Mafileo. Bas Visinia marking Danny Toala was interesting, but Toala doesn't have to fear for his spot in the Magpies squad. I didn't see exactly when McClutchie came on, but he did well in a Regional XV side that started struggling by then. He missed a conversion, but made some good clearing kicks and touch finders. Was also quite vocal on a couple of occasions, bossing his team mates haha.

                                      I tried to see who the try scorers in the game were, but I may have one or two wrong (esp with some named players not playing and not knowing their replacements):

                                      Hunters: Patafilo (2), Aso (2), Visinia, Laubscher and no. 19 (definitely not someone named Tuatuvalu) tries; Toala (2) con.

                                      Reg XV: Wild (2), Latu, Tofa tries; Cruden con

                                      Paula Latu played for MAC and the Hawke's Bay WTG and Dev teams last year. Still in Hawke's Bay for 2021?

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @stargazer sucks to hear about Ruben Love. He’s a future star of our game so I hope it isn’t serious.

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                                        @canes4life WHY!!!! Hickey I didn’t really mind about but not Love.

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                                          So what now? Jimmy Gopperth?

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