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  • A ARHS

    An improvement in squad selection from recent years but lacks a powerful outside back to me and a punishing carrier at 8.
    Pleased to see Tiatia back though. He is a creator. But underwhelmed by the other unannounced signings as was hoping for a powerful acquisition like Liam Squire or Kneepkens or Visinia. Having said that Boshier Norris and Lowe all have plenty to contribute. But not sure how and why Fletcher Smith Josh McKay and Samepeni Finau were not picked up. Perhaps the head coach had no input into the recruitment and talent spotting.

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    @ARHS said in Chiefs 2021:

    An improvement in squad selection from recent years but lacks a powerful outside back to me and a punishing carrier at 8.

    The outside backs will be quick but do lack some size apart from Wainui. Stevenson doesn't really make the most of his size.

    The loose forward mix will be intriguing, and will depend on where Jacobson is played (6 or 8). You could get away with starting both Cane and Boshier if your no.8 is a big ball-carrier. PGS could be that player if consistent. I'd use Boshier off the bench myself.

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      I'll take a stab at a starting 23.

      1. Aidan Ross
      2. Samisoni Taukei'aho
      3. Angus Ta'avao
      4. Tupou Vaa'i
      5. Laghlan McWhannell
      6. Lachlan Boshier
      7. Sam Cane
      8. Luke Jacobson
      9. Brad Weber
      10. Bryn Gatland
      11. Sean Wainui
      12. Anton Lienert-Brown
      13. Quinn Tupaea
      14. Jonah Lowe
      15. Damian McKenzie

      Reserves
      16. Bradley Slater
      17. Ollie Norris
      18. Atunaisa Moli
      19. Josh Lord
      20. Pita Gus Sowakula
      21. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
      22. Kaleb Trask
      23. Etene Nanai-Seturo

      Wanted to chuck a couple of newbies in there just to see how it looks.

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        I'll take a stab at a starting 23.

        1. Aidan Ross
        2. Samisoni Taukei'aho
        3. Angus Ta'avao
        4. Tupou Vaa'i
        5. Laghlan McWhannell
        6. Lachlan Boshier
        7. Sam Cane
        8. Luke Jacobson
        9. Brad Weber
        10. Bryn Gatland
        11. Sean Wainui
        12. Anton Lienert-Brown
        13. Quinn Tupaea
        14. Jonah Lowe
        15. Damian McKenzie

        Reserves
        16. Bradley Slater
        17. Ollie Norris
        18. Atunaisa Moli
        19. Josh Lord
        20. Pita Gus Sowakula
        21. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
        22. Kaleb Trask
        23. Etene Nanai-Seturo

        Wanted to chuck a couple of newbies in there just to see how it looks.

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        @Yeetyaah Harris should be back as the starting hooker. I'd go with a Nankivell-ALB midfield.

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        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

          I'll take a stab at a starting 23.

          1. Aidan Ross
          2. Samisoni Taukei'aho
          3. Angus Ta'avao
          4. Tupou Vaa'i
          5. Laghlan McWhannell
          6. Lachlan Boshier
          7. Sam Cane
          8. Luke Jacobson
          9. Brad Weber
          10. Bryn Gatland
          11. Sean Wainui
          12. Anton Lienert-Brown
          13. Quinn Tupaea
          14. Jonah Lowe
          15. Damian McKenzie

          Reserves
          16. Bradley Slater
          17. Ollie Norris
          18. Atunaisa Moli
          19. Josh Lord
          20. Pita Gus Sowakula
          21. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
          22. Kaleb Trask
          23. Etene Nanai-Seturo

          Wanted to chuck a couple of newbies in there just to see how it looks.

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          @Yeetyaah I would want Moli, Trask, Harris and either Nanai-Seturo or Stevenson starting and Roe and Brown on the bench. But, I am hoping Kaylum Boshier might become the powerful destroyer we need at 8, and that the final squad spot goes to a powerful outside back of the Rayasi / Fainga'anuku mould.

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            Is naholo out for the season? Suprised no contract

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              That looks like the 4th or 5th best team in NZ. I'm going to settle in for some mid 2000s Chiefs results.

              Pleased to see they picked up Lowe who might add more value that Alaimalo did (although having both would have been better), and nice to see Moli back (as a TH?) but apart from that, it' s a pretty average looking squad.

              I'm not convinced about the size of our loosies, especially if we end up with both Vaaii and Ah Kuoi starting again (both of whom didn't let the side down, but let's hope that isn't required). We want Jacobson to stay fit as he is crucial piece for us.

              I also wonder whether we wouldn't be better playing Dmac at 10 and Trask or Stevenson at 15, but I assume that the starting 10 role will be between Gats and Trask.

              I'm integued to see how Tupaea goes at 12 for the Maori, as a Tupaea/ALB combo could be a nice way of using ALB.

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                McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

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                  McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                  McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

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                  @Bovidae Did he play in the Top League before the season was cancelled?

                  When does their new season start?

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                    @Bovidae Did he play in the Top League before the season was cancelled?

                    When does their new season start?

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                    @Tim He played some games. @gt12 may be able to answer the question about the Top League season.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      That looks like the 4th or 5th best team in NZ. I'm going to settle in for some mid 2000s Chiefs results.

                      Pleased to see they picked up Lowe who might add more value that Alaimalo did (although having both would have been better), and nice to see Moli back (as a TH?) but apart from that, it' s a pretty average looking squad.

                      I'm not convinced about the size of our loosies, especially if we end up with both Vaaii and Ah Kuoi starting again (both of whom didn't let the side down, but let's hope that isn't required). We want Jacobson to stay fit as he is crucial piece for us.

                      I also wonder whether we wouldn't be better playing Dmac at 10 and Trask or Stevenson at 15, but I assume that the starting 10 role will be between Gats and Trask.

                      I'm integued to see how Tupaea goes at 12 for the Maori, as a Tupaea/ALB combo could be a nice way of using ALB.

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                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

                      That looks like the 4th or 5th best team in NZ. I'm going to settle in for some mid 2000s Chiefs results

                      holy shit i just realised it is a massive throwback

                      i have to support Foster as a coach, and the Chiefs are a bit shit.

                      "to everything
                      turn turn turn"

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Tim He played some games. @gt12 may be able to answer the question about the Top League season.

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                        @Bovidae Any idea how he looked? Would be great if he comes back at full fitness.

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                          McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                          McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

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                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                          McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                          McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

                          He looks good in Crusader red.

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                            @Bovidae Did he play in the Top League before the season was cancelled?

                            When does their new season start?

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                            @Tim said in Chiefs 2021:

                            When does their new season start?

                            The competition starts on Saturday, 16 January 2021. The first leg consists of 7 rounds; the last games to be played on Saturday, 6 March.

                            The second leg starts on Friday, 26 March and finishes on Sunday, 25 April.

                            Quarter finals in the weekend of 8 - 9 May, Semi finals a week later and the Grand Final on Sunday, 23 May.

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                              @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                              McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                              McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

                              He looks good in Crusader red.

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                              @Crazy-Horse said in Chiefs 2021:

                              @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                              McMillan, who is in Hamilton this week as Māori All Blacks coach for Saturday’s clash against Moana Pasifika, also confirmed his Chiefs coaching staff for next season: Roger Randle, David Hill, Neil Barnes and Nick White.

                              McMillan said the Chiefs will start pre-season on January 7, two months before their opening match against the Highlanders at home on March 5.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300173746/super-rugby-all-blacks-lock-brodie-retallick-could-be-available-for-the-chiefs-in-2021

                              He looks good in Crusader red.

                              The Crusaders didn’t think so.

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                                Holy fuck the guzzler would be great.

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                                  Another article about McMillan.

                                  With Matson departing someone needs to take over as defence coach, a very important role, and something that needs to be addressed. Maybe Hill does this along with his other responsibilities.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300174797/super-rugby-clayton-mcmillan-hopes-to-stay-with-the-chiefs-once-warren-gatland-returns

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Absolutely stoked to see the move from Jonah Lowe confirmed. Hopefully, McMillan will give him the opportunity to play that he didn't get at the Canes.

                                    I'm sorry to see McNicol miss out, but I guess he's had too many injuries over the years and it was too big a risk to signing him again. Really unfortunate, because he has the potential to be a good SR player. Only played 2 games for the Magpies, this year.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    I'm sorry to see McNicol miss out, but I guess he's had too many injuries over the years and it was too big a risk to signing him again. Really unfortunate, because he has the potential to be a good SR player. Only played 2 games for the Magpies, this year.

                                    That's two more than usual so it is sad that he finally appears to have overcome the injury curse that keeps him sidelinded all season only to miss out.

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                                      Can't remember if anyone mentioned this, but Sione Mafileo was still signed with the Blues for 2021, but is now named in the Chiefs squad for 2021.

                                      Would this have anything to do with Nepo Laulala moving to the Blues?

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                                        As you may guess, I'm updating my "signings" list.

                                        Chase Tiatia also still had a year to go on his Hurricanes contract.

                                        I'm confused, how do these contracts work? I know, they sign with NZR because of the central contracting, but isn't there also a contractual relationship with the franchise?

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          As you may guess, I'm updating my "signings" list.

                                          Chase Tiatia also still had a year to go on his Hurricanes contract.

                                          I'm confused, how do these contracts work? I know, they sign with NZR because of the central contracting, but isn't there also a contractual relationship with the franchise?

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                                          @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          As you may guess, I'm updating my "signings" list.

                                          Chase Tiatia also still had a year to go on his Hurricanes contract.

                                          I'm confused, how do these contracts work? I know, they sign with NZR because of the central contracting, but isn't there also a contractual relationship with the franchise?

                                          Unless the franchise is happy to let them transfer out to make way for someone they rate more highly.

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