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    Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

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    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

    Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

    Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

    Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

    DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

    Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

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      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

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      That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

      Super rugby was awesome back then.

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        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

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        That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

        Super rugby was awesome back then.

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        @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

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        That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

        Super rugby was awesome back then.

        Shit Lauaki was a fucken tank.

        RIP to him and JC.

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          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

          0DBA2671-42A7-4D83-94AE-196E8626E0F0.jpeg

          That Chiefs loose forward trio is awesome. Hard to believe the loose forward trio they're playing against is even better.

          Super rugby was awesome back then.

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          @toddy and to think two of the players in that picture are no longer with us. RIP.

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            I remember seeing Sione Lauaki play when I went to my first ever professional rugby game when I was 12. Was Waikato vs Southland in 2007. Remember thinking what a beast he was.

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              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

              Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

              Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

              Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

              DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

              Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

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              @toddy said in Chiefs 2021:

              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

              Mils made some good points on the breakdown - how does Reece’s much more intentional hit get yellow but Dmac gets Red (and 3 weeks!) and that’s not even considering the Toomua shot.

              Not sure on the Toomua one as I've only seen it once. But isn't there a few difference's between Sevu's and DMacs?

              Sevu was making a tackle that started below the head on the ball carrier and then travelled up to contact with the head.

              DMac ran in to shoulder charge/body check a player without the ball and clocked him clean in the face with his shoulder.

              Sevu could always argue he was trying to make a tackle and a rugby incident occurred. DMac can only argue he was trying to take the Reds player out and accidentally hit his face, rather than his body.

              That's a good point. On the other hand the Reece hit was pretty much straight to the head with impact. In terms of actual danger, I wonder which is worse, and in the modern game players run into each other all the time, so incidents very similar to the Dmac one get missed a lot (btw the way, I think the RC is justified, I just don't get the inconsistency).

              I think Mils was making the point that there is a big difference between the two penalties, especially when Toomua got nothing for his (8:40 in the video).

              From 6:45 here, you can the discussion about all three.

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                @gt12 Strange seeing Craig Clarke in that photo, in a Canes jersey.

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                  @gt12 Strange seeing Craig Clarke in that photo, in a Canes jersey.

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                  @bovidae
                  O'Neill was really tall. He played well against with the All Blacks against South Africa but being in a losing team did not help his cause. He did not have the career his physical attributes let expect.

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                    @bovidae
                    O'Neill was really tall. He played well against with the All Blacks against South Africa but being in a losing team did not help his cause. He did not have the career his physical attributes let expect.

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                    @cgrant said in Chiefs 2021:

                    @bovidae
                    O'Neill was really tall. He played well against with the All Blacks against South Africa but being in a losing team did not help his cause. He did not have the career his physical attributes let expect.

                    That statement sums it up. Bird was similar, and when he finally started to show promise, went overseas.

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                      @cgrant said in Chiefs 2021:

                      @bovidae
                      O'Neill was really tall. He played well against with the All Blacks against South Africa but being in a losing team did not help his cause. He did not have the career his physical attributes let expect.

                      That statement sums it up. Bird was similar, and when he finally started to show promise, went overseas.

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                      @bovidae Didn't Bird also have some bad injuries along the way?

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                        @bovidae Didn't Bird also have some bad injuries along the way?

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                        @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @bovidae Didn't Bird also have some bad injuries along the way?

                        I think he did have a few injuries but was also given plenty of opportunities for the Chiefs. He did play very well in the game against Wales.

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/125331480/super-rugby-pretty-dark-times--why-former-all-black-nathan-harris-nearly-chucked-it-all-in

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                            Hope we see him this week and others like Ah Kuoi Norris Finau and Moli

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                              @bovidae Pretty brutal stuff.

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                                @bovidae "I’m definitely not out of the woodwork yet"

                                Classic footy quote

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                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/departing-chiefs-coach-shares-a-moment-with-anton-lienert-brown-ahead-of-final-match-f-im-already-losing-it/

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                                    “They were giving me the name tag of ‘The Food Bill’ there for a wee while, because I didn’t play, and was just collecting all the kit.

                                    Wasnt Ranby the one that phrase was coined for?

                                    Jeez what a tough run, great he still has that desire though!!

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                                      @bovidae

                                      “They were giving me the name tag of ‘The Food Bill’ there for a wee while, because I didn’t play, and was just collecting all the kit.

                                      Wasnt Ranby the one that phrase was coined for?

                                      Jeez what a tough run, great he still has that desire though!!

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                                      @taniwharugby I honestly can't remember who that phrase started with. There has been a long list over the years.

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                                        @bovidae

                                        “They were giving me the name tag of ‘The Food Bill’ there for a wee while, because I didn’t play, and was just collecting all the kit.

                                        Wasnt Ranby the one that phrase was coined for?

                                        Jeez what a tough run, great he still has that desire though!!

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        @bovidae

                                        “They were giving me the name tag of ‘The Food Bill’ there for a wee while, because I didn’t play, and was just collecting all the kit.

                                        Wasnt Ranby the one that phrase was coined for?

                                        Jeez what a tough run, great he still has that desire though!!

                                        It was at least Robin Brooke before that when he was injured 1994/1995ish.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          @bovidae

                                          “They were giving me the name tag of ‘The Food Bill’ there for a wee while, because I didn’t play, and was just collecting all the kit.

                                          Wasnt Ranby the one that phrase was coined for?

                                          Jeez what a tough run, great he still has that desire though!!

                                          It was at least Robin Brooke before that when he was injured 1994/1995ish.

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                                          @nepia at that point he wouldnt have been a 'foodbill' though was he, not being 'officially' paid and all.

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