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Chiefs 2021

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    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

    Most squads carry 5 locks. I assume Brown is still contracted and he appears to be one of the leaders.

    Agree about McWhannell. He needs to play a full season for Waikato to prove his fitness. Finau could take his position. Someone will also have to replace L Boshier too.

    If we are carrying Brown as a lock, our problems are just as likely to continue then.

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    @gt12 I've never really been a huge fan of Mitchell Brown tbh. Be happy for him to move on.

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      This year's squad had only 4 locks but 8 loose forwards, which led to big problems when 2 or 3 of the locks were unavailable. Obviously BBBR comes back but I would select one less loosie or sacrifice an outside back to have adequate cover.

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        i would expect wranpling and naholo (younger) to pick up contracts

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          i would expect wranpling and naholo (younger) to pick up contracts

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          @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

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            @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

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            @cliff said in Chiefs 2021:

            @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

            I'm still not sure I believe the hype over Naholo the younger.

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              @cliff said in Chiefs 2021:

              @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

              I'm still not sure I believe the hype over Naholo the younger.

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              @nepia Yep, he got a lot of media attention during his 1st XV days, because he scored a lot of tries and had an AB brother, but the fact is that he only finished try scoring opportunities created by some brilliant players inside him: Fakatava, Toala and especially McClutchie. I haven't seen him shine that much for Taranaki. I'm still on the fence.

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                @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

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                @cliff said in Chiefs 2021:

                @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

                agree 100% with that. in his half game last year he looked the most dangerous winger.the piece of the puzzle we are lacking

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                  @cliff said in Chiefs 2021:

                  @ploughboy I am really hoping naholo Jr gets over his injuries obviously the chiefs value him hence why he has been training with the team this year he could give us the xfactor we need out wide

                  I'm still not sure I believe the hype over Naholo the younger.

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                  @nepia the one game he played for the chiefs for like five minutes he looked very dangerous

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                    Kini is more like Nareki and Reece in size so not your typical big Fijian winger. He needs to get on the field and injuries seem to run in that family.

                    @ploughboy Wrampling to replace Poihipi in the squad? He is a midfielder who can play on the wing. Sullivan was finally given an opportunity and did nothing wrong so it would be harsh to let him go instead.

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                      @nepia the one game he played for the chiefs for like five minutes he looked very dangerous

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                      @cliff said in Chiefs 2021:

                      @nepia the one game he played for the chiefs for like five minutes he looked very dangerous

                      Yep, that 5 minutes doesn't really lead me to reevaluate my thought. 🤣

                      Hopefully he does live up to it if he keeps being selected for the Chiefs.

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                        @nepia Yep, he got a lot of media attention during his 1st XV days, because he scored a lot of tries and had an AB brother, but the fact is that he only finished try scoring opportunities created by some brilliant players inside him: Fakatava, Toala and especially McClutchie. I haven't seen him shine that much for Taranaki. I'm still on the fence.

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                        @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                        @nepia Yep, he got a lot of media attention during his 1st XV days, because he scored a lot of tries and had an AB brother, but the fact is that he only finished try scoring opportunities created by some brilliant players inside him: Fakatava, Toala and especially McClutchie. I haven't seen him shine that much for Taranaki. I'm still on the fence.

                        Similar story when Naholo played for NZ Schools in 2017 - the NZ backline was stacked - Etene Nanai, Quinn Tupaea and Leicester Faingaanuku to name a few.

                        From memory all of the above stood out more than Naholo when they played the Aussie Schools.

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                          I hope valynce te whare gets more opportunities with waikato could be another one to watch out for has the size and pace abit similar to Clarke

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                            @stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

                            @nepia Yep, he got a lot of media attention during his 1st XV days, because he scored a lot of tries and had an AB brother, but the fact is that he only finished try scoring opportunities created by some brilliant players inside him: Fakatava, Toala and especially McClutchie. I haven't seen him shine that much for Taranaki. I'm still on the fence.

                            Similar story when Naholo played for NZ Schools in 2017 - the NZ backline was stacked - Etene Nanai, Quinn Tupaea and Leicester Faingaanuku to name a few.

                            From memory all of the above stood out more than Naholo when they played the Aussie Schools.

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                            @kiwimurph Yep, also McClutchie and I Punivai.

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                              I hope valynce te whare gets more opportunities with waikato could be another one to watch out for has the size and pace abit similar to Clarke

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                              @cliff agreed on that

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                                Kini is more like Nareki and Reece in size so not your typical big Fijian winger. He needs to get on the field and injuries seem to run in that family.

                                @ploughboy Wrampling to replace Poihipi in the squad? He is a midfielder who can play on the wing. Sullivan was finally given an opportunity and did nothing wrong so it would be harsh to let him go instead.

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                                @bovidae
                                thats the big question
                                i think stevenson had contract for next season.wainui might not be the best player but has heaps of mana and would die for the cause.lowe probaly has next year in contract. poihipi /sullivan most in danger and could be unfair to replace .tiatia could be in firing line as well. simply we need more xfacter out wide as cliff said so a tough decision might have to be made.
                                i did hear a whisper that gatland could be on move but he still has 2 years on his contract i believe.
                                if i was picking gatland/sullivan/tiatia/poihipi in that order on chopping block

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                                  Tiatia signed a 2-yr deal so contracted for 2022 too.

                                  Poihipi probably only contracted for this year as he was the late signing.

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                                    I hope valynce te whare gets more opportunities with waikato could be another one to watch out for has the size and pace abit similar to Clarke

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                                    @cliff agree, dude has some speed and size.

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                                      I hope valynce te whare gets more opportunities with waikato could be another one to watch out for has the size and pace abit similar to Clarke

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                                      @cliff i agree, he looks like he could develop into a really dangerous winger/centre

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                                        @cliff i agree, he looks like he could develop into a really dangerous winger/centre

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                                        @oleoleole I wish the coaches could see what we see his talent is obvious and with good coaching could be a weapon out wide

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                                          The problem is I don't think we have alot of spots to be filled for next year but if the coaches are wise they will know we really lacked flair out wide I have no qualms with our forward pack maybe sign finau maybe a hooker if Harris doesn't resign our midfield looks good I think they will sign wrampling if tahuriorangi doesn't have a contract next year I'd go for Cortez lee ratima or Cameron roigard with retallick back and cane I think we will be good

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