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  • NTAN Offline
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    @Damo its patchy as fuck because of the slapdash way the network has been put together over the years, particularly around older areas of Sydney where "I need a phone line" was the going concern at the time.

    But its not just older areas: I live in one of the growth corridors of Sydney, so you'd think they would have just run fibre the same time as they put in electricity, gas etc. BUT they don't think like that, because individual land developers create the local infrastructure to onsell to property developers. There is very little coordination with the backhaul because it costs a fuckload, and they don't have the authority to do some things anyway.

    There are basically two types of NBN (National Broadband Network) available:

    • Fibre-To-The-Premises (FTTP) - optic fibre right into your house
    • Fibre-To-The-Node (FTTN) - optic fibre to the nearest node/backhaul, then copper run to the home - often referred to as "Fraudband". Its VDSL, effectively.

    A few streets from me, because the developers decided to invest, there is one side of the street served by FTTP. They get plans up to 100mbps

    On the other side of the street, they're waiting to get FTTN and still using ADSL2. Some people are so far from the nearest node that their download speed on ADSL2 is better than what they get from copper NBN because of the higher tolerance of ADSL compared to VDSL.

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    #138

    @Damo - the copper distance I have to travel to the nearest node is over 800m so I'm not even close to ideal conditions (< 300m) for VDSL speeds.

    Its fucking rubbish, and a political football that the conservatives promised would cost less to deploy, but in fact is now costing more, is well behind schedule, and is going to need replacing in the next two decades as the copper degrades further.

    Not to mention this MTM ("Multi-Technology Mix") approach actually costs more to keep a wider variety of techs upskilled to service the same population footprint.

    The third leg of the equation is the wireless component for rural settings where running cable isn't cost-effective. There is still a small amount of HFC (i.e. cable TV lines) that service areas of the inner suburbs.

    And then you have ministers saying "Well people don't NEED fibre because most of them are subscribing to 25mbps plans, see?!!"

    Which is bullshit because most of us can't do better than 25mbps and figure we're better off not wasting the money.

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    I was speaking to my sister this morning, and they've gone on to fibre in Hastings. She said her speeds are nuts, they just stream everything now. Apparently 2Degrees have a fast plan that can (theoretically) reach 900Mbps download?

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    Yeah a few people are talking about gigabit speeds BUT you're still subject to whatever they stuck on the backhaul.

    I hear Telstra FTTN customers in my area are getting fucked up when evening peak hits - speeds dropping from ~20-40mbps down to 3mbps.

    All because Telstra skimped on the fibre running out of the pillar/node.

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    @NTA said in The Interweb:

    @Nepia fark.... I at least get 17/3 these days on fraudband.

    Was at the new conference centre in Darling Harbour for a Google thing recently.

    400 nerds in the room and the wifi was still cranking at 106Mb down and 120Mb up.

    😮

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    Don't know what you're talking about

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    @dK said in The Interweb:

    @NTA said in The Interweb:

    @Nepia fark.... I at least get 17/3 these days on fraudband.

    Was at the new conference centre in Darling Harbour for a Google thing recently.

    400 nerds in the room and the wifi was still cranking at 106Mb down and 120Mb up.

    😮

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    Don't know what you're talking about

    That's some awesome speed, maybe you should be researching the "mountain disrespecter" for us. @jegga is way too slow.

    If Mrs dK catches you researching you can tell her from us that it's practically a public service duty.

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    @JC I would love to help you guys out, but this is my work connection. Home, I'm lucky to get 12 down and 1 up (boom boom!!)

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    Home:
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    @dK said in The Interweb:

    @JC I would love to help you guys out, but this is my work connection. Home, I'm lucky to get 12 down and 1 up (boom boom!!)

    I was about to suggest that those were the speeds you get in the former PMs electorate.

    That 4Mbps I mentioned earlier was my work speed. 😞

    @antipodean Why am I note surprised that Canberra has good speeds ....

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    @Nepia It depends entirely on what suburb you're in. I could have the NBN tomorrow, but I'm certain it would be worse.

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    @antipodean said in The Interweb:

    @Nepia It depends entirely on what suburb you're in. I could have the NBN tomorrow, but I'm certain it would be worse.

    Is that cable?

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    VDSL

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    @antipodean said in The Interweb:

    VDSL

    Damn, that is awesome. 👍

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    #150

    The new office in the CBD has a bit of pull.

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    @NTA said in The Interweb:

    The new office in the CBD has a bit of pull.

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    Is that on the NBN or some other network for business (I don't think I've seen a residential plan over 100Mb down)? That's awesome, although my sister in provincial NZ gets similar speeds.

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    @Nepia that's work so I assume they're buying oodles of fibre. Right near Central Station

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    @NTA said in The Interweb:

    @Nepia that's work so I assume they're buying oodles of fibre. Right near Central Station

    Near UTS?

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    @Nepia nah other side - those red buildings on Elizabeth Street.

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    and I thought I was doing OK at home

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    #156

    @Stockcar86 what do you pay per month for that?

    Here, on shitty copper VDSL at 17/3 I'm forking over $60. Includes a DID but that isn't worth much.

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