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Hawke's Bay v Canterbury

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  • HigginsH Higgins

    I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.

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    @Higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

    I was extremely magnanimous in victory

    It's over-rated, isn't it! 🙂

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?

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      @Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

      @Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?

      I haven't in the past been a fan of Evans at 7 but it's the best way to get all three on at the same time. What's going in HB at the moment that we're pumping out 8s - including Hugh Renton who's getting starts for @Chris-B's Invitational Money Bags XV.

      @Higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

      I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.

      I've been pretty subdued too, but @shark's carry on in this thread is making me reach for my list of dodgy ref decisions and illegal play by Canterbury I compiled on my rewatch this morning. 😉

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        @Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

        @Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?

        I haven't in the past been a fan of Evans at 7 but it's the best way to get all three on at the same time. What's going in HB at the moment that we're pumping out 8s - including Hugh Renton who's getting starts for @Chris-B's Invitational Money Bags XV.

        @Higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

        I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.

        I've been pretty subdued too, but @shark's carry on in this thread is making me reach for my list of dodgy ref decisions and illegal play by Canterbury I compiled on my rewatch this morning. 😉

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        @Nepia Doubtless a legacy of the teachings of Mike Coman! 🙂

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Nepia Doubtless a legacy of the teachings of Mike Coman! 🙂

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          @Chris-B said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

          @Nepia Doubtless a legacy of the teachings of Mike Coman! 🙂

          Damn, we must have had terrible stocks back then for Coman to get regular gametime - he'd be holding tackle bags at practice in todays team. Anyway, we're repaying the favour with Renton.

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            @Chris-B said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

            @Nepia Doubtless a legacy of the teachings of Mike Coman! 🙂

            Damn, we must have had terrible stocks back then for Coman to get regular gametime - he'd be holding tackle bags at practice in todays team. Anyway, we're repaying the favour with Renton.

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            @Nepia Glory days pass by so quick - this time last year we had Frizell, Taufua, Squire and Blackadder fighting for games at 8.

            This year it's Hugh - who could up his physicality significantly!

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            • B Billsy111

              Generally speaking I don't like hangovers, but this one I'm strangely enjoying. That game last night was something special, not just because Hawkes Bay won it but because it had a bit of everything. Hawkes Bay started well, moved Canterbury around and kept the attacking mindset. The set piece namely the scrum was strong, and out wide Visinia and Lowe were on fire. Toala looked full of running and Baker at the back looked very assured. Fokatava played well, but too many inside flick passes. Canterbury as per usual after halftime came out full of fire, and looked to be pulling away towards the 70 minute mark, but for me the best part of this game was that Hawkes Bay stayed tough, stayed in the fight and never gave in. Devan Flanders, Ash Dixon, Tom Parsons, Joe Apikitoa take a bow, you were all simply brilliant. Brendan O'Connor likewise at the breakdown. Jason Long magnificent last scrum, and good to see he like the rest of the pack never gave in and conceded. 1982 seems a long time ago, and is but this Hawkes Bay effort showed everything you want to see in players in the Black and White jersey. Great game, great effort, and for once an enjoyable hangover. Well done boys.

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              @Billsy111 said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

              Black and White jersey.

              Or Black and grey

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                @Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?

                I haven't in the past been a fan of Evans at 7 but it's the best way to get all three on at the same time. What's going in HB at the moment that we're pumping out 8s - including Hugh Renton who's getting starts for @Chris-B's Invitational Money Bags XV.

                @Higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.

                I've been pretty subdued too, but @shark's carry on in this thread is making me reach for my list of dodgy ref decisions and illegal play by Canterbury I compiled on my rewatch this morning. 😉

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                @Nepia 🙂 😝

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                  Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

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                    @Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?

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                    @Stargazer yeah MMT has been very quiet at 6.

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                    • C cgrant

                      Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

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                      @cgrant said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                      Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

                      I'm paying a lot more attention to him this season. He was drafted into the Blues this year and I'd never even heard of him!

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                        @cgrant said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                        Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

                        I'm paying a lot more attention to him this season. He was drafted into the Blues this year and I'd never even heard of him!

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                        @shark He didn't get drafted into the Blues. It was the Highlanders wasn't it?

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                          @cgrant said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                          Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

                          I'm paying a lot more attention to him this season. He was drafted into the Blues this year and I'd never even heard of him!

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                          @shark Highlanders, not Blues. But, he is a cousin of Blues' hooker James Parsons, so there is a link.

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                            Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.

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                            @cgrant Yeah, he has been good for years and was training with the Canes during preseason in 2019. He has been around their development team (Hurricanes Hunters) for years. It's mind-boggling that has never been signed, esp by the Canes. I hope this year's stint with the Highlanders leads to something; either in Dunedin or elsewhere.

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                              If he can translate his NPC play into SR, and the Highlanders do sign him up, they'll be sitting pretty for locks for the next few years with Parsons, Will Tucker and Paripari Parkinson all in their ranks

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                                They also have Selby-Rickitt. And what about Whetton ? Is he signed for 2021 ?

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                                  And Dickson as well.

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                                    And Dickson as well.

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                                    @cgrant Of none of the players you mention, the contract duration has been published. So, basically, we have no idea whether they're still under contract at the Landers.

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                                      They also have Selby-Rickitt. And what about Whetton ? Is he signed for 2021 ?

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                                      @cgrant said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                                      They also have Selby-Rickitt. And what about Whetton ? Is he signed for 2021 ?

                                      Selby-Rickitt, yes, knew I was missing someone. I wouldn't put Whetton in the same bracket.

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                                        So, MSR, PPP, Dickson and Tucker are likely though. Parsons purely speculation. Whetton could be another. Handy group no matter what.

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                                          So, MSR, PPP, Dickson and Tucker are likely though. Parsons purely speculation. Whetton could be another. Handy group no matter what.

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                                          @shark No speculation about Parsons at all. I was only expressing the hope that his stint with the Highlanders (& his great performance for the Magpies the last few years) leads to a contract "either in Dunedin or elsewhere".

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