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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @Nepia Well, no-one is a clone...

    They were wing-fullbacks - as opposed to power wingers or out-and-out speedsters.

    They're the two who are as close to Bridge in my mind, as anyone.

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Nepia Well, no-one is a clone...

    They were wing-fullbacks - as opposed to power wingers or out-and-out speedsters.

    They're the two who are as close to Bridge in my mind, as anyone.

    It’s just weird to pick such good attacking players to compare him against. Guildford was a wing fullback too, worked hard like Bridge and had excellent pace.

    I wouldn’t say either beat people with footwork, so a better comparison than Jane or Dagg.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      Not thrilled about that.

      I would have moved Jordie to fullback and brought in Sevu Reece.

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      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Not thrilled about that.

      I would have moved Jordie to fullback and brought in Sevu Reece.

      They also need a backup 10 which I presume is another reason to bring in DMac.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @Nepia Well, no-one is a clone...

        They were wing-fullbacks - as opposed to power wingers or out-and-out speedsters.

        They're the two who are as close to Bridge in my mind, as anyone.

        It’s just weird to pick such good attacking players to compare him against. Guildford was a wing fullback too, worked hard like Bridge and had excellent pace.

        I wouldn’t say either beat people with footwork, so a better comparison than Jane or Dagg.

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        @Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @Nepia Well, no-one is a clone...

        They were wing-fullbacks - as opposed to power wingers or out-and-out speedsters.

        They're the two who are as close to Bridge in my mind, as anyone.

        It’s just weird to pick such good attacking players to compare him against. Guildford was a wing fullback too, worked hard like Bridge and had excellent pace.

        I wouldn’t say either beat people with footwork, so a better comparison than Jane or Dagg.

        Yeah, Guildford is probably closer. They're both great if put in space and they're both good at getting in positions to put in space.

        Last year I wanted Bridge to be our right wing/fullback style dude but they picked him to replace our attacking left wing.

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        • TimT Tim

          11 Oct 4:00 pm, Wellington.

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          @Tim Is Hansen still the coach? Don’t see much has changed.

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            WTF???

            Put Jordie at 15 and Caleb Clarke on the wing.
            D Mac on the bench.

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              This is worse. Hilarious

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              • FrankF Frank

                WTF???

                Put Jordie at 15 and Caleb Clarke on the wing.
                D Mac on the bench.

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                @Frank said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                WTF???

                Put Jordie at 15 and Caleb Clarke on the wing.
                D Mac on the bench.

                That would make sense BUT obviously both Bridge and Clarke are primarily left wingers.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @Nepia Well, no-one is a clone...

                  They were wing-fullbacks - as opposed to power wingers or out-and-out speedsters.

                  They're the two who are as close to Bridge in my mind, as anyone.

                  It’s just weird to pick such good attacking players to compare him against. Guildford was a wing fullback too, worked hard like Bridge and had excellent pace.

                  I wouldn’t say either beat people with footwork, so a better comparison than Jane or Dagg.

                  Yeah, Guildford is probably closer. They're both great if put in space and they're both good at getting in positions to put in space.

                  Last year I wanted Bridge to be our right wing/fullback style dude but they picked him to replace our attacking left wing.

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                  @Nepia I have Zac as a different sort of wing - and actually more like Doug Howlett! 🙂

                  Rieko is part of the reason that RWC 2019 caught us at a low ebb.

                  He had injury problems, but regardless - in the games he played subsequent to Perth, he never showed sufficient form to displace George.

                  At anything like his peak the door never would have opened.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Frank said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    WTF???

                    Put Jordie at 15 and Caleb Clarke on the wing.
                    D Mac on the bench.

                    That would make sense BUT obviously both Bridge and Clarke are primarily left wingers.

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                    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @Frank said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    WTF???

                    Put Jordie at 15 and Caleb Clarke on the wing.
                    D Mac on the bench.

                    That would make sense BUT obviously both Bridge and Clarke are primarily left wingers.

                    Details, details.
                    I've got no time for facts.

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                      The flakiest player in NZ who shouldn't be anywhere near the 46 gets a start lol.

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                        My ESPN plus is not showing this test. P.m. me if you have any suggestions. Thanks

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                          No more talk of an all white back 3 now as Dmac is Māori.

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                            How in the sweet fuck does DMac get a start? He shouldn't even be in the squad ffs.

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                              Foster is obsessed with experience for this game.
                              Must also have something to do with the two playmaker tactic

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                              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                No more talk of an all white back 3 now as Dmac is Māori.

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                                @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                No more talk of an all white back 3 now as Dmac is Māori.

                                He probably doesn't meet the safe criteria either, but then neither does JB.

                                Mixed races erratic back three.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @DMX true regarding Jordie, but it looks like he ate Aaron Smith during the off season and the weight not only added confidence but also made more effective tackles and breaks... opinion of course but Jordie looks different this year.

                                  Yeah - I read an article that he consciously bulked up in the off season. Added six or seven kgs.

                                  He also went up a level in his play with the Hurricanes. Became one of their go to guys.

                                  He might make a mistake tomorrow, but I think that will be an anomaly now (like Ben Smith getting binned in the RWC Final), rather than any indication that he's not ready for this level.

                                  I think my only slight concerns would be that he probably doesn't have the out and out gas of a wing and that he hasn't played there much.

                                  Overall, I reckon he's less likely to make a bad error than a debuting Will Jordan or an adventurous Sevu Reece, but in the longer run he's probably less likely to create magic quite as often either.

                                  So, I hope this is a matter of Fozzie being desperate to win his first outing, rather than any sort of fixture - and if it is (with Beaudy as their first choice fullback), it certainly begs the question of why they haven't got Josh Ioane in the squad

                                  My 2 cents is that tonight is a signal that Mo’unga is going to get the starts at 10 this season and barring major catastrophe this will continue with Barrett going for a sabbatical next year that may impact on test footy (whatever that looks like) next year.

                                  Josh’s inclusion would be surplus right now. Tough call but with Mo’unga and Barrett and in an emergency DMac and Jordie available I’d say they’ve got things covered.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @bayimports said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @DMX true regarding Jordie, but it looks like he ate Aaron Smith during the off season and the weight not only added confidence but also made more effective tackles and breaks... opinion of course but Jordie looks different this year.

                                  Yeah - I read an article that he consciously bulked up in the off season. Added six or seven kgs.

                                  He also went up a level in his play with the Hurricanes. Became one of their go to guys.

                                  He might make a mistake tomorrow, but I think that will be an anomaly now (like Ben Smith getting binned in the RWC Final), rather than any indication that he's not ready for this level.

                                  I think my only slight concerns would be that he probably doesn't have the out and out gas of a wing and that he hasn't played there much.

                                  Overall, I reckon he's less likely to make a bad error than a debuting Will Jordan or an adventurous Sevu Reece, but in the longer run he's probably less likely to create magic quite as often either.

                                  So, I hope this is a matter of Fozzie being desperate to win his first outing, rather than any sort of fixture - and if it is (with Beaudy as their first choice fullback), it certainly begs the question of why they haven't got Josh Ioane in the squad

                                  My 2 cents is that tonight is a signal that Mo’unga is going to get the starts at 10 this season and barring major catastrophe this will continue with Barrett going for a sabbatical next year that may impact on test footy (whatever that looks like) next year.

                                  Josh’s inclusion would be surplus right now. Tough call but with Mo’unga and Barrett and in an emergency DMac and Jordie available I’d say they’ve got things covered.

                                  Let's hope we don't have to test this theory early in tomorrow's game! 🙂

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                                    With this new combo I think we will see DMac and JB both spend time covering deep at fullback.

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                                      TAB punters don't seem to have minded this news.

                                      When I looked earlier today, I think we were something like $1.13 to $5.80 to win (Oz was under $6 at any rate).

                                      Now, we're $1.08 to $6.70.

                                      I've decided to place an insurance bet!

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        Foster is obsessed with experience for this game.
                                        Must also have something to do with the two playmaker tactic

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                                        @Crucial

                                        I’m surprised that they don’t seem to see Jordie as second playmaker - really they’ve got three out there. It’s a strange replacement .

                                        And if both Clarke and Bridge are only 11s, that also means that we don’t have right wing cover on the bench or in the team, so one or both of them are covering 14.

                                        I’d have put Clarke in and switched Bridge over, with Dmac to the bench (as they need 10 cover). Feel a bit sorry for Joane who should have been there from the start and could have got a bench role here.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          TAB punters don't seem to have minded this news.

                                          When I looked earlier today, I think we were something like $1.13 to $5.80 to win (Oz was under $6 at any rate).

                                          Now, we're $1.08 to $6.70.

                                          I've decided to place an insurance bet!

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                                          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          TAB punters don't seem to have minded this news.

                                          When I looked earlier today, I think we were something like $1.13 to $5.80 to win (Oz was under $6 at any rate).

                                          Now, we're $1.08 to $6.70.

                                          I've decided to place an insurance bet!

                                          Probably most don't realise the change

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