Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October
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@NTA Strangely I don't think the issue is the forwards, your set piece was the best yet with the lineout very good and only losing a couple of scrums. The biggest issue was just the schoolboy errors that made it next to impossible to build any pressure. The option taking was some of the worst I have seen and likely just due to nerves, overenthusiasm, and inexperience.
The AB's were also clinical, and it appeared they had a very specific game plan to find space in front of the fullback and wingers and we got a lot of return from Smiths precision box kicks. You just can't gift the AB's possession and expect to be competitive.
I'm not sure if anyone noticed but after Moungas first try where they switched behind the scrum and he stepped the hooker and blew past the 10. They went to the coaches box and Brad Mooar had a grin that suggested that was planned well in advance. I felt several plays had been identified pre game and the players just executed very well. The Sotutu try was also interesting as I don't think he ran once from the back and then they have the confidence to run that move and RI scores.
Suncorp will likely be more competitive with JOC back at the helm.
Lets just hope the "pictures" the new Wallabies saw tonight don't scare them long term.
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA Strangely I don't think the issue is the forwards, your set piece was the best yet with the lineout very good and only losing a couple of scrums. The biggest issue was just the schoolboy errors that made it next to impossible to build any pressure.
I agree that our errors were costly, but I'm looking at our failure to defend the maul for Coles' try and our lack of penetration carrying the ball. I thought our scrum was unlucky not to get another 1-2 penalties actually after the ABs stood up under pressure a couple of times but it was play on.
Again: i've not seen the broadcast of the game but from end on we looked like we weren't getting the upper hand at the collisions.
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA Strangely I don't think the issue is the forwards, your set piece was the best yet with the lineout very good and only losing a couple of scrums. The biggest issue was just the schoolboy errors that made it next to impossible to build any pressure.
I agree that our errors were costly, but I'm looking at our failure to defend the maul for Coles' try and our lack of penetration carrying the ball. I thought our scrum was unlucky not to get another 1-2 penalties actually after the ABs stood up under pressure a couple of times but it was play on.
Again: i've not seen the broadcast of the game but from end on we looked like we weren't getting the upper hand at the collisions.
@NTA Yep the Scrums were pretty much the most even yet from what I could see. I don't think they were embarrassed at the collisions in close, Fritzel went backwards a few times as did Karl and others. Whenever that happened Smith seemed to put up a box kick and the Wallabies just fucked up their possession and we often got the ball back in a better spot.
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
Don't pay to watch rugby, so no real idea.
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
Don't pay to watch rugby, so no real idea.
I didn't watch Super Au, but he's certainly big enough.
Based on the outcomes I'm not sure Hannigan for Samu has beesn an improvement.
I think Tupou should start, and hope O'Conner back.
Liked Rennie’s comment that he guaranteed that they'd be better next time.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
Don't pay to watch rugby, so no real idea.
I didn't watch Super Au, but he's certainly big enough.
Based on the outcomes I'm not sure Hannigan for Samu has beesn an improvement.
I think Tupou should start, and hope O'Conner back.
Liked Rennie’s comment that he guaranteed that they'd be better next time.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Based on the outcomes I'm not sure Hannigan for Samu has been an improvement.
If we'd stolen a few more lineouts and been 100% on our own, I'd be satisfied. But it hasn't worked out that way.
I think Tupou should start, and hope O'Conner back.
I think the better scrum work from Alaalatoa justifies his starting spot over Tupou - who IMHO is better for later in the game where he can run at gaps and use his hands while fresh. Something like the role Coles plays of Seagull Extraordinaire to threaten the midfield and wider channels.
Liked rennie's comment that he guaranteed that they'd be better next time.
Lets hope he means the Wallabies.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Rennie must be thirsty...
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I was ambiguous. I meant alternative to Simmons at lock.
Trevor Hosea who is 20.
How’d you rate him?
He was impressive in Super Rugby Au. Good mobility and good physicality.
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But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
I agree, extremely grating personality.
He’s no Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire or Damian McKenzie.
There’s no way I’d have brekky with him even if he was shouting.
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But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
No, I think largely society has moved on and agrees with you about the quality of the food BUT it is an 8PM kickoff with a 100 minute window to cater to tens of thousands under a large number of contractual and governmental strictures.
The lesson is: eat beforehand and bring a thermos.
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Anyone else notice big Karl get confused after he scored, he moved the ball over the line back into the field of play thinking that was the in goal.
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Anyone else notice big Karl get confused after he scored, he moved the ball over the line back into the field of play thinking that was the in goal.
Yeah and the Wally 8 did the same thing, in a ruck illegally played it on the ground... to the ABs side
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Anyone else notice big Karl get confused after he scored, he moved the ball over the line back into the field of play thinking that was the in goal.
Yeah and the Wally 8 did the same thing, in a ruck illegally played it on the ground... to the ABs side
@Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.
On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....
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But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
But fuck, maybe I'm just in the minority here amd out of touch, and maybe all the average punters really wants is hot chips and a crappy pie. Its certainly the lowest effort and if the $ aren't there from changing then I guess why would they?
It's certainly one of the reasons why I don't get out for games. I can take the family out for a nice meal then go home and watch the game while Al Bundying on my sofa without having to worry about being rained on. I can also have an esky full of beers and snacks and I'd still be paying less than if we all went to the stadium. It's a freaking ripoff and I can't believe people actually pay those prices, not only for actually getting in, but some soggy farking chips and 400ml of XXXX Gold in a plastic cup. And what if your team loses!!!!
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@Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.
On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Machpants nah I reckon he knew he was on hhe wrong side and thought if he gave it to us he avoids a penalty.
On big Karl, yea looked like he is placing it back for the 9, which was pretty luck really cos if he doesnt score himself with 3 men outside....
I was just so happy when he caught the ball ! I think it would have been asking too much for him to pass as well!
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@Stargazer That Richie Mounga can play a bit, always liked him.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Stargazer That Richie Mounga can play a bit, always liked him.
I don't often LOL, but fucking LOL.
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What a shit game.
The first half was bad, highlighted by the dogshit first quarter. Errors, shit play, more errors.
Considering the scoreline we were crap. The wallabies basically gift wrapped our points, especially the first 26. Unforced error after Unforced error. We can't even take credit for forcing the error, we just waited for their kids to fuck up. And they did, a lot. Then missed a tackle.
When we were forced to play phases and create, we did nothing, for 40 minutes. The wallabies made their front on tackles, and were forced in to box kicks. Or made our own error. It was just shit.
On a couple of players.
Goodhue is painfully slow. Gor burned for the Wallabie try, and on a kick chase got burned by everyone
Seriously, can we not find a better halfback than TJP? His passing is fucking bad. The drop when Smith goes off is massive.Glad I didn't go out of my way to watch live.
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Not sure if this had been mentioned but Hos was very impressive in creating that try for RI. It was a lighting fast pickup from the base of the scrum that created the try. The Aussie flanker and halfback had no idea the ball was even out, it was that quick. Not many 8s can do that.
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For us I particularly liked Coles (attitude, speed, etc.), Cane (everything), Smith (hardly put a foot wrong other than lead up to Oz try), Ritchie, and ALB (apart from foot in touch!). Thought Scooter was good off bench, but Hodgman under the pump from Tupou. TJP non passing game really stunted ABs tonight. Not his sort of game. Roane certainly brought X-factor.
For Oz Slipper excellent in scrum and plenty of great tackling. Paenga-Amosa good in tight. Liked look of Simone and Petaia very dangerous. Tupou monstered Hodgman in at least one scrum.
Lolesio too green to be critical, but Rennie needs some gold at 10. Simmons depowers OZ forwards - @NTA isn't there ANYONE else?
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What a shit game.
The first half was bad, highlighted by the dogshit first quarter. Errors, shit play, more errors.
Considering the scoreline we were crap. The wallabies basically gift wrapped our points, especially the first 26. Unforced error after Unforced error. We can't even take credit for forcing the error, we just waited for their kids to fuck up. And they did, a lot. Then missed a tackle.
When we were forced to play phases and create, we did nothing, for 40 minutes. The wallabies made their front on tackles, and were forced in to box kicks. Or made our own error. It was just shit.
On a couple of players.
Goodhue is painfully slow. Gor burned for the Wallabie try, and on a kick chase got burned by everyone
Seriously, can we not find a better halfback than TJP? His passing is fucking bad. The drop when Smith goes off is massive.Glad I didn't go out of my way to watch live.
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
What a shit game.
The first half was bad, highlighted by the dogshit first quarter. Errors, shit play, more errors.
Considering the scoreline we were crap. The wallabies basically gift wrapped our points, especially the first 26. Unforced error after Unforced error. We can't even take credit for forcing the error, we just waited for their kids to fuck up. And they did, a lot. Then missed a tackle.
When we were forced to play phases and create, we did nothing, for 40 minutes. The wallabies made their front on tackles, and were forced in to box kicks. Or made our own error. It was just shit.
On a couple of players.
Goodhue is painfully slow. Gor burned for the Wallabie try, and on a kick chase got burned by everyone
Seriously, can we not find a better halfback than TJP? His passing is fucking bad. The drop when Smith goes off is massive.Glad I didn't go out of my way to watch live.
Someone woken up on the wrong side of bed this morning?
Miserable fluffybunny.
