Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October
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@canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.
Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.
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I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have. -
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.
We have too many Barretts and not enough positions to fill
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I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.Jack throws some high quality shade though.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Ah coolio
"The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
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The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "
Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?
Here it is in the sunlight - tho they're probably using a reflector to add more light to the shot:
@NTA so the 'uniform' comes with matching giant tea towels! Useful!
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@Crucial "Canary Yellow"
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Crucial "Canary Yellow"
Doesn't cut the Mustard!
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@Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Sad for him. Class act. @NTA , what do you think of Simone at 12? Not that experienced, I know.
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@Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Sad for him. Class act. @NTA , what do you think of Simone at 12? Not that experienced, I know.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Sad for him. Class act. @NTA , what do you think of Simone at 12? Not that experienced, I know.
Decent player. Has good hands, a boot, and is defensively not bad either. He would go alright.
Don't get all the pissing and moaning from some Aussie fans about Toomua going down being the end of our Bledisloe chances.
Sure, on the day it shifted some stuff in a way that was unfavourable BUT Toomua's absence didn't give the ABs 2 easy midfield kicks to attack from. Tupou and JOC - looking at you.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.
We have too many Barretts and not enough positions to fill
@canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
If Rieko wants to be a centre then we have to judge him as a centre, rather than his body of work on the wing. If that's the case then no way he starts ahead of ALB and JG, he's just not in their class yet despite his obvious talent. He's on the bench for mine, coming on in the final 20 to get some experience in the position and wrecking some havoc. We shouldn't move him back to wing as he will never settle and realise his potential in the midfield otherwise.
At the moment we simply don't have a world class right winger. Jordan has the attributes but there are questions marks over his defense. So Jordie it is for now, as much as I'd prefer him at 15.
Wait what? You’re applying one rule for Rieko and then ignoring it for your boy JB.
Not quite - Jordie is filling in at wing, not a long term prospect there IMO. Rieko is up against two very classy midfielders. I think Rieko has the potential to be one of the best in the world like he was on the wing, but it's going to take some time for him to develop there at the top level.
I don't see why he can't play on the wing in tests, filling in like Jordie, while he's developing his midfield game at Super and in lower tier tests. He was the best wing in the world a couple of years ago.
I think playing Jordie on the wing is detrimental to his development and has the potential to cause him to take backward steps.
We have too many Barretts and not enough positions to fill
I hear there’s a vacancy at 6...
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Looks like Savea won’t be available for the Sydney test. So what will be the loose forward line-up?
@MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Looks like Savea won’t be available for the Sydney test. So what will be the loose forward line-up?
Hope Akira Ioane goes in at 8.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.
Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that
@canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that
Moment of the game for me. Saw Conrad do that a couple of times as well.
What I like about ALB is his consistency. He seems to have a really low error rate at Test level and I can't think of a bad game he has had in Black.
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I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.
Yep. And it would be good to see these 2 get time off the bench and build experience and confidence at Test level rather than just throw them in.
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@cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.
Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.
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@cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.
Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.
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@cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.
Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.
@sparky said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
@cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:
Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.
Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.
We know Fozzie values continuity and minimal disruption so Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu seems the most logical and tbh I would agree with that. Akira on the bench might be nice but it leaves us vulnerable to a Cane injury so Papali'i 's versatility and ability to replace Fritzell at 60mins or so just makes more sense.
