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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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    Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

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    • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

      Looks like Savea won’t be available for the Sydney test. So what will be the loose forward line-up?

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      @MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      Looks like Savea won’t be available for the Sydney test. So what will be the loose forward line-up?

      Hope Akira Ioane goes in at 8.

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        @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @canefan I remember the one from ALB. Jordie leaves his wing open too often though which I assume is what people see with Jordan. I haven't noticed it.

        Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that

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        @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        Oh yeah, it was ALB, totally unloaded on him and he shelled almost every pass after that

        Moment of the game for me. Saw Conrad do that a couple of times as well.

        What I like about ALB is his consistency. He seems to have a really low error rate at Test level and I can't think of a bad game he has had in Black.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          I am not sure anyone is attacking my post so I thought I would defend it: Goodhue is good at 13. Don't like him at 12.
          I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.

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          @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          I do however also like what I saw of PUJ and Rieko-good problem to have.

          Yep. And it would be good to see these 2 get time off the bench and build experience and confidence at Test level rather than just throw them in.

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          • C cgrant

            Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

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            @cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

            Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.

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              @cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

              Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.

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              @sparky is Akira in the squad?

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                @cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

                Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.

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                @sparky said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @cgrant said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Probably Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench.

                Probably correct, but I'd like to see A Ioane - Cane - Sotutu with Papali'i on the bench. It would make the Aussies worry about backrow ball carriers and make space for the fast men outside.

                We know Fozzie values continuity and minimal disruption so Frizzell - Cane - Sotutu seems the most logical and tbh I would agree with that. Akira on the bench might be nice but it leaves us vulnerable to a Cane injury so Papali'i 's versatility and ability to replace Fritzell at 60mins or so just makes more sense.

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                    @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

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                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                      @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

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                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

                      Speaking to a relative who is a farmer last night, he was complaining that there had been too much rain and the trucks were getting bogged in the paddocks...never bloody happy eh?

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                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                        @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

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                        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

                        Nah, knowing farmers they'll switch immediately from complaining there's not enough rain, to whinging there's too much

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                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                          @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

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                          @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @NTA looks like it might be a wet track. Farmers might be the only happy ones in 2020 with all the rain we have had.

                          Hard to tell at this stage - ANZ stadium drains very well as per the Rugbaleg GF last night, and when it is Thunderstorm weather it doesn't usually hit until evening, or not at all. Very fickle weather regardless and I'm wondering how Rennie will play it.

                          Shitty weather probably gives us the opportunity to play a kicking game like we did in Welly but I'm not sure the ABs will ever be that rusty again.

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                            The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                            The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                            It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

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                              The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                              The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                              It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

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                              @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                              The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                              It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                              Hallelujah!

                              "Foster names his team on Thursday"

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                                I personally think that they should include two real wings.

                                Jordie at 14 is a bit of luxury and has some major flaws (primarily, he seems to be a bit of a carthorse). Ioane at 14 would make us much more dangerous and we could then bring Barrett off the bench.

                                Lomax for Nepo looks a good change, and Sotutu should start.

                                It would be a great test for Aoane to get a bench spot, but we need 7 cover, so Paps it will be. Hopefully at some point this year, they give Aoane a run...

                                I wonder if we'll get to see Barrett/Barrett 10/15 this year. Probably not for this test but I hope we see it at some point.

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                                  I personally think that they should include two real wings.

                                  Jordie at 14 is a bit of luxury and has some major flaws (primarily, he seems to be a bit of a carthorse). Ioane at 14 would make us much more dangerous and we could then bring Barrett off the bench.

                                  Lomax for Nepo looks a good change, and Sotutu should start.

                                  It would be a great test for Aoane to get a bench spot, but we need 7 cover, so Paps it will be. Hopefully at some point this year, they give Aoane a run...

                                  I wonder if we'll get to see Barrett/Barrett 10/15 this year. Probably not for this test but I hope we see it at some point.

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                                  @gt12 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  It would be a great test for Aoane to get a bench spot, but we need 7 cover, so Paps it will be. Hopefully at some point this year, they give Aoane a run...

                                  Papali'i is almost certain to get the bench spot

                                  I think there's a good argument for having Ioane at 6. The Blues combo of Papali'i/Sotutu/Ioane worked together really well and Cane/Sotutu/Ioane is very similar.

                                  Papali'i covers 6 & 7 from the bench. That still leaves the question of 8 cover. I hate the idea of moving Cane. Ioane covers it better than Frizell IMO

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                    The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                    It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

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                                    @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                    The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                    It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                    "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                    I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                      The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                      It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                      "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                      I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

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                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                      The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                      It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                      "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                      I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

                                      It’s starting to grate as much as when the press wanked on about SBW and how professional he was off the field when he had so many mediocre tests when he was actually on the field.

                                      Jordie does score a lot of tries but he certainly benefits from loads of space and not having to run very far.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                        The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                        It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                        "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                        I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

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                                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                        The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                        It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                        "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                        I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

                                        I banged that drum as an advantage he possessed, then we kicked high to his wing about as often as he made 55m penalties

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                                          @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                          The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                          It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                          "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                          I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

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                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

                                          The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

                                          It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

                                          "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

                                          I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

                                          yeah...they really are completely overthinking things if height outweighs speed or elusiveness when talking about a winger.

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