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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    Can we all just agree that Jordie is a fullback who's being forced to play wing. He's been arguably the best fullback in the country this year. He's safe as houses under the high ball, he's strong with ball in hand and he's got a fantastic kicking game. The only reason he isn't playing in his preferred position is because of Beauden who IMO didn't deserve the jersey after a fairly mediocre year.

    Is he a wing? Probably not, but he isn't exactly going to say no when the selectors throw him the jersey.

    These coaches need to give the fans what they really want and start a back three of 11. Clarke 14. Jordan and 15. Jordie.

    Breaking news, not all All Black selections are made on recent super rugby form.

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    @ACT-Crusader no shit, it's why Beauden's still starting.

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      @ACT-Crusader no shit, it's why Beauden's still starting.

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      @Canes4life so why talk about “deserving”?

      There was no way the AB selectors were going to leave out their most experienced back (other than Smith) even if his form at Super rugby was up and down.

      The only question was do they see more upside with

      B. Barrett and DMac 10-15 combo or Mo’unga and B. Barrett 10-15 combo.

      So far it’s been the latter. Could change against Argies.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Canes4life so why talk about “deserving”?

        There was no way the AB selectors were going to leave out their most experienced back (other than Smith) even if his form at Super rugby was up and down.

        The only question was do they see more upside with

        B. Barrett and DMac 10-15 combo or Mo’unga and B. Barrett 10-15 combo.

        So far it’s been the latter. Could change against Argies.

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        @ACT-Crusader I know Foster obviously wanted to start his tenure off with a win by selecting that experience but for me I would have liked to see Jordan and Jordie get that first opportunity after playing the house down all year. No better opportunity than throwing those guys into a test on home turf against a fairly inexperienced Australian side.

        That's just me though, others like Foster want to be conserative by selecting a more experienced side and that's fine. It's all a matter of opinion. Heck you could even argue the RM/BB combo failed at the WC so why even persist with it. I guess that's what makes the debate around some of these selections so absorbing

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          I have not noticed Jordie dominate the high ball contests in general to be honest. You'd think with his height and being a fullback he'd be an absolute gun,

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            @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @Tim said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            The Sydney job is perfect for Sam Whitelock, who was ruled out of the Auckland match because of concussion.

            The word is that the vastly experienced Whitelock is fit for this one. Excellent. It gives Rennie and co something more to worry about.

            It's only Knowler, but hopefully this is true.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300142136/all-blacks-v-australia-the-big-calls-ian-foster-must-make-for-bledisloe-iii

            "The latter (Jordie) may lack top-end speed when compared to other test wings, but his height will prove advantageous if the Aussies go for a high kicking game through halfback Nic White"

            I am sick of hearing about how great Jordie's height will be against a kicking game. White had a great kicking game in Welly. How many did Jordie catch?

            I banged that drum as an advantage he possessed, then we kicked high to his wing about as often as he made 55m penalties

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            @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            I banged that drum as an advantage he possessed, then we kicked high to his wing about as often as he made 55m penalties

            Fozzie's keeping his powder dry.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

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              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

              Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

                Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                2b884106-39de-4b2c-bc38-a7ddd66b80d0-image.png

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                @Chris-B more red lines and green circles please.

                Really, I just find it odd lumping him in the same box as Reece....

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Chris-B more red lines and green circles please.

                  Really, I just find it odd lumping him in the same box as Reece....

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                  @Bones Can't do lines and circles - but, there's a series of those new AB photos with Caleb and Will standing next to one another.

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=will+Jordan+caleb+clarke&rlz=1C1CHZL_enNZ842NZ845&sxsrf=ALeKk00gT-aJRFPOBPcOR4WrtKhenb8LpA:1603701019197&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_x8zs69HsAhUCzzgGHe2lBJAQ_AUoAXoECAUQAw&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Bones Can't do lines and circles - but, there's a series of those new AB photos with Caleb and Will standing next to one another.

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=will+Jordan+caleb+clarke&rlz=1C1CHZL_enNZ842NZ845&sxsrf=ALeKk00gT-aJRFPOBPcOR4WrtKhenb8LpA:1603701019197&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi_x8zs69HsAhUCzzgGHe2lBJAQ_AUoAXoECAUQAw&biw=1536&bih=722&dpr=1.25

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                    @Chris-B phwoar, pass the tissues eh.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Chris-B phwoar, pass the tissues eh.

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                      @Bones Pity Pari Pari wasn't a new AB to be in the photos, eh!

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Bones Pity Pari Pari wasn't a new AB to be in the photos, eh!

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                        @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @Bones Pity Pari Pari wasn't a new AB to be in the photos, eh!

                        He's bulking up.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Bones Pity Pari Pari wasn't a new AB to be in the photos, eh!

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                          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Bones Pity Pari Pari wasn't a new AB to be in the photos, eh!

                          Or James Blackwell so the cameraman didn't need to stand back to far to get them all in.

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                            Who is the short halfback behind Jordan?

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                              Who is the short halfback behind Jordan?

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                              @chimoaus Jordan's a lock by Hurricanes standards.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

                                Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                                2b884106-39de-4b2c-bc38-a7ddd66b80d0-image.png

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                                @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                                1.84 m looks to be more accurate.

                                http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/profile.asp?ABID=1187

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

                                  Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                                  2b884106-39de-4b2c-bc38-a7ddd66b80d0-image.png

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                                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

                                  Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                                  2b884106-39de-4b2c-bc38-a7ddd66b80d0-image.png

                                  I remember when that photo first dropped and my immediate reaction was, “Sotutu’s not that big”

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @chimoaus pretty sure Clarke is as tall as Bridge, if not taller!

                                    Caleb might be borrowing Ardie's box to stand on for those official stats. Apparently he's a centimetre taller than Will Jordan!

                                    2b884106-39de-4b2c-bc38-a7ddd66b80d0-image.png

                                    I remember when that photo first dropped and my immediate reaction was, “Sotutu’s not that big”

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                                    @ACT-Crusader definitely someone who "plays above his weight". He's never looked imposing but his ability to power through tackles or into tackles is impressive.

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                                      If Clarke is 1.84, Jordan is 1.88 and Sotutu 1.92 that photo looks about right.

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                                        Ok now I am confused in one photo Sotutu looks shorter than Jordan, in the last one he looks taller. Short photographer for the former one?

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                                          Height in the backline: more important at fullback than wing? Did not seem to be important in Bled I.

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