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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

    Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

    So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

    Or is it more defensive?

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

    Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

    So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

    Or is it more defensive?

    Ha. I asked these questions before last test and I don't think that they were answered.

    I would stick with the same pair though.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

      Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

      So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

      Or is it more defensive?

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      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

      Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

      So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

      Or is it more defensive?

      A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

        Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

        So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

        Or is it more defensive?

        Ha. I asked these questions before last test and I don't think that they were answered.

        I would stick with the same pair though.

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        @Snowy I'd say zero chance that these two don't start together if everyone is available.

        Slightly more chance that they swap numbers! 🙂

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

          Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

          So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

          Or is it more defensive?

          A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

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          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

          Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

          So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

          Or is it more defensive?

          A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

          And with Beaudy and Jordie in the team it doesn't matter that he's an inside centre rather than a second five (providing kicking and playmaking options).

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Moody, Whitelock, R. Ioane - will they be back?

            Does S. Barrett come into the starting lineup if Whitelock unavailable?

            Do we persist with Jordie on the wing?

            Is DMac still out best bench option?

            Are we still taking a massive squad with reduced games?

            When is the team named?

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            @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Do we persist with Jordie on the wing?

            JB does sometimes look a little bit lost on defence on the wing, the Koroibete try is a good example when he moves to his left instead of holding his position out wide. The thing is that Reece also has issues defending on the wing, as does Jordan. Rieko would be in the only other "safe" option if there was to be a change.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Do we persist with Jordie on the wing?

              JB does sometimes look a little bit lost on defence on the wing, the Koroibete try is a good example when he moves to his left instead of holding his position out wide. The thing is that Reece also has issues defending on the wing, as does Jordan. Rieko would be in the only other "safe" option if there was to be a change.

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              @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

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                @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

                racist!!!

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

                  racist!!!

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                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

                  racist!!!

                  Well he's not Japanese, (and beautiful, wise and child don't really fit) so it must be Rieko.

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

                    racist!!!

                    Well he's not Japanese, (and beautiful, wise and child don't really fit) so it must be Rieko.

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                    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @Bovidae safe is not a word I would associate with Reiko

                    racist!!!

                    Well he's not Japanese, (and beautiful, wise and child don't really fit) so it must be Rieko.

                    Yeah him too

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                      It appears to me they want JG at 12, I'm less convinced on who they want at 13 though, if that try hadn't gone begging would they have started RI or was rotating RI and ALB always the plan?

                      I personally think ALB/JG or i guess JG/ALB is what I prefer, but I would like RI to start at 14, given there is no way Clarke doesn't start the next test...it then comes to which Barrett starts, BB for me.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        It appears to me they want JG at 12, I'm less convinced on who they want at 13 though, if that try hadn't gone begging would they have started RI or was rotating RI and ALB always the plan?

                        I personally think ALB/JG or i guess JG/ALB is what I prefer, but I would like RI to start at 14, given there is no way Clarke doesn't start the next test...it then comes to which Barrett starts, BB for me.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        It appears to me they want JG at 12, I'm less convinced on who they want at 13 though, if that try hadn't gone begging would they have started RI or was rotating RI and ALB always the plan?

                        I personally think ALB/JG or i guess JG/ALB is what I prefer, but I would like RI to start at 14, given there is no way Clarke doesn't start the next test...it then comes to which Barrett starts, BB for me.

                        Agree. Oughtn't to be beyond the wit of man for JG and ALB to alternate a bit on our ball.

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                          Sparky's team

                          Moody, Coles, Tu'ungafasi, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, A Ioane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, B Barrett, Clarke, ALB, Goodhue, Jordan, J Barrett

                          Aumua, Hodgman, Lomax, S Barrett, Papali'i, TJP, Mo'unga, Umaga-Jensen

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Sparky's team

                            Moody, Coles, Tu'ungafasi, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, A Ioane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, B Barrett, Clarke, ALB, Goodhue, Jordan, J Barrett

                            Aumua, Hodgman, Lomax, S Barrett, Papali'i, TJP, Mo'unga, Umaga-Jensen

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                            @sparky great team. Is Whitelock good to go?

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                              Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                              Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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                                Judging by "Match FIt" on TV3 Pita Alatini and Troy Flavell could be in line for recalls. Some great fitness and form shown by those two.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                  Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                  I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

                                  You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                  I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

                                  When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

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                                    Ah coolio

                                    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                                    "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                                    ...
                                    The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                      I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

                                      You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                      I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

                                      When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

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                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                      Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

                                      When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

                                      Not helped by the fact the AB's had an experienced midfielder at 13 whose defence was Nonu-like.

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                                        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                        Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

                                        When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

                                        Not helped by the fact the AB's had an experienced midfielder at 13 whose defence was Nonu-like.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                        Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

                                        Even with that, we were making serious metres pretty much all game without the ability to finish things, so the ball was quick enough and mostly used well (though not often enough). That is a sign that we can nullify or work around more physicality. And in fact our ruck loss count (and percentage) were similar to yours.

                                        Missed tackles was a massive difference - and that isn't breakdown physicality.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

                                          Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

                                          So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

                                          Or is it more defensive?

                                          A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

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                                          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

                                          Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

                                          So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

                                          Or is it more defensive?

                                          A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

                                          It makes sense, but my only concern with JG at 12 - currently - is his range of passing. We've seen it a couple of times over the past 2 tests that he's not so great with long passes and struggles particularly off his left. When playing 13, this is OK as he's required to throw generally shorter passes to a fullback hitting the line or a winger in space

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