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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Sparky's team

    Moody, Coles, Tu'ungafasi, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, A Ioane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, B Barrett, Clarke, ALB, Goodhue, Jordan, J Barrett

    Aumua, Hodgman, Lomax, S Barrett, Papali'i, TJP, Mo'unga, Umaga-Jensen

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    @sparky great team. Is Whitelock good to go?

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      Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

      Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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        Judging by "Match FIt" on TV3 Pita Alatini and Troy Flavell could be in line for recalls. Some great fitness and form shown by those two.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

          Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

          I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

          You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

          I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

          When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

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            Ah coolio

            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

            "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
            ...
            The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

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            • NTAN NTA

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

              I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

              You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

              I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

              When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

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              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

              Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

              When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

              Not helped by the fact the AB's had an experienced midfielder at 13 whose defence was Nonu-like.

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

                When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

                Not helped by the fact the AB's had an experienced midfielder at 13 whose defence was Nonu-like.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                Key question I think for Rennie is how he responds to the AB physicality at the breakdown

                Even with that, we were making serious metres pretty much all game without the ability to finish things, so the ball was quick enough and mostly used well (though not often enough). That is a sign that we can nullify or work around more physicality. And in fact our ruck loss count (and percentage) were similar to yours.

                Missed tackles was a massive difference - and that isn't breakdown physicality.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

                  Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

                  So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

                  Or is it more defensive?

                  A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

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                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

                  Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

                  So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

                  Or is it more defensive?

                  A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

                  It makes sense, but my only concern with JG at 12 - currently - is his range of passing. We've seen it a couple of times over the past 2 tests that he's not so great with long passes and struggles particularly off his left. When playing 13, this is OK as he's required to throw generally shorter passes to a fullback hitting the line or a winger in space

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                    Ah coolio

                    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                    "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                    ...
                    The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                    09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

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                    @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

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                      @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

                      Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

                      So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

                      Or is it more defensive?

                      A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

                      It makes sense, but my only concern with JG at 12 - currently - is his range of passing. We've seen it a couple of times over the past 2 tests that he's not so great with long passes and struggles particularly off his left. When playing 13, this is OK as he's required to throw generally shorter passes to a fullback hitting the line or a winger in space

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                      @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

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                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                        @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

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                        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                        Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

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                          Ah coolio

                          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                          "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                          ...
                          The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                          09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

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                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          Ah coolio

                          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                          "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                          ...
                          The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                          09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

                          Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

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                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Ah coolio

                            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                            "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                            ...
                            The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                            09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

                            Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

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                            @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

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                              @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

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                              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

                              Hard for me to tell anyway, being mildly colourblind.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

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                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

                                @junior

                                Surely that was a miscommunication though? It didn't seem to slip out of the hand, I thought it looked like BB missed his assignment?

                                It surely wasn't for anyone else, it was 3m short of Clarke on the wing.

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                                  @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                                  Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

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                                  @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                                  Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

                                  How about WANTASS?

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                    Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                    Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

                                    My opinion is that we are still in must win territory so hard to see many changes outside of injured or unavailable players being out or fit players returning. Jordie at 14 is definitely not the future but I am guessing Fozzie will be reluctant to put Reiko under the pressure of switching positions and we know he will not give Jordan a starting debut, if anything he would come off the bench so I think Jordie definitely starts again at 14.

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                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @antipodean said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      We need exactly the same team, because that's worth an extra seven points.

                                      I wondered if that was per player? We could get more points by multiples of 7 for each guy that was put back in position?

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                                      @Snowy yes I think Ben Darwin does mean that
                                      "Ask a rugby player – in either code – to wear a different number on his back and fulfil a slightly less familiar role in a big game and, on average, his team score seven points fewer per game."
                                      So if we play, what, 5 people out of position, then put them back..35 extra points!

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Already a question mark on availability of Ardie, Reece and Nepo due to baby-watch. If this comes true then match day squad will change.

                                        yes, hello, my name is mariner4life and i have a question

                                        if you are a professional rugby player from NZ, why are you timing babies for mid to late October? in a normal year all 3 of those guys would be expecting to jet off to Europe about now.

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                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        if you are a professional rugby player from NZ, why are you timing babies for mid to late October? in a normal year all 3 of those guys would be expecting to jet off to Europe about now.

                                        Everyone wants a Libran baby?!

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                                          Ben Darwin:
                                          "We say the All Blacks are amazing but there is nothing about them that is magical. If they were amazing they would still win even when they introduce new players in key positions. In fact, when they do, they perform exactly the same as everyone else. It’s what we put upon them that is magical. Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.”
                                          So when you remove key players, the replacements aren't as good.
                                          -"Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.” WTF?!

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