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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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    @Duluth said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    Team has been released:

    1 Karl Tu'inukuafe (14)
    2 Dane Coles (71)
    3 Ofa Tuungafasi (37)
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu (32)
    5 Samuel Whitelock (118)
    6 Shannon Frizell (11)
    7 Sam Cane (70) - captain
    8 Hoskins Sotutu (2)
    9 Aaron Smith (94)
    10 Richie Mo'unga (19)
    11 Caleb Clarke (2)
    12 Jack Goodhue (15)
    13 Anton Lienert-Brown (45)
    14 Jordie Barrett (19)
    15 Beauden Barrett (85)

    16 Codie Taylor (52)
    17 Alex Hodgman (1)
    18 Tyrel Lomax (2)
    19 Scott Barrett (37)
    20 Dalton Papalii (3)
    21 TJ Perenara (66)
    22 Ngani Laumape (13)
    23 Rieko Ioane (31)

    Still strange to see that our best First Five is playing out of position, that our best Fullback is playing out of position and two of our most exciting young talents (Akira Ioane and Will Jordan) don't get a look in.

    Still a question mark for me about Shannon Frizell as a Test 6 and Richie Mo'unga as a Test 10.

    I can live with the rest. A good team. Loving the idea of Laumape and Reiko Ioane off the bench.

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    @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

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      @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

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      @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

      I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

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        He was also fantastic as a lineout option last week. Maybe that's less relevant with Whitelock back , but great to see him step up there.

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          @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

          I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

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          @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

          I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

          Was impressed with his breakdown and lineout work but am not convinced about his physicality on defence. Have hardly seen him put in dominant tackles like Paps and some of the others regularly do.

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            @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

            I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

            Was impressed with his breakdown and lineout work but am not convinced about his physicality on defence. Have hardly seen him put in dominant tackles like Paps and some of the others regularly do.

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            @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

            I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

            Was impressed with his breakdown and lineout work but am not convinced about his physicality on defence. Have hardly seen him put in dominant tackles like Paps and some of the others regularly do.

            He certainly doesn't have a tight handle on the Jersey yet

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              Like that Fozzie's kept the team as unchanged as possible with only injury changes in the starting 15 but able to try different things off the bench. Like the idea of Laumape coming on in the last 20 mins or so.

              Don't have a problem with Frizell at 6 as thought he went well & combined well in Bled 2 with Ardie & Sam. Just don't get Jordie at 14 though. Class player but out of position for me and can't see the logic of it.

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                @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

                I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

                Was impressed with his breakdown and lineout work but am not convinced about his physicality on defence. Have hardly seen him put in dominant tackles like Paps and some of the others regularly do.

                He certainly doesn't have a tight handle on the Jersey yet

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                @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                He certainly doesn't have a tight handle on the Jersey yet

                Looks hungry for it though.

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                • A akan004

                  @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

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                  @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

                  Cully is pretty pro Frizell/Highlanders.

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                    I'm not completely sold on Frizell, but I think I wrote about it last year in a post, showing that he's quite a grafting 6, who in that game was winning line out ball, making plenty of cleans, had a few runs, and was pretty accurate with his tackling.

                    He's probably a stop-gap until Robinson, Paps, or Akira steps up, but at least we've got a guy in the jersey who is a worker.

                    At that point they were still experimenting with Fifita!

                    They should have committed to both Frizell and Akira earlier, but were still holding out on Squire (sigh).

                    Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

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                      I'm not completely sold on Frizell, but I think I wrote about it last year in a post, showing that he's quite a grafting 6, who in that game was winning line out ball, making plenty of cleans, had a few runs, and was pretty accurate with his tackling.

                      He's probably a stop-gap until Robinson, Paps, or Akira steps up, but at least we've got a guy in the jersey who is a worker.

                      At that point they were still experimenting with Fifita!

                      They should have committed to both Frizell and Akira earlier, but were still holding out on Squire (sigh).

                      Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

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                      @gt12 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

                      The TWM, like the previous TWM, probably see issues with Akira around his attitude.

                      He's a talent though, and would be worth at least bringing him into the squad to see where his head is at. Hopefully, like Ali Williams, he'll come tight.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @akan004 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @sparky Paul Cully was saying on twitter today that Frizell is by far NZ's best blindside. Is he seeing something that we aren't? I hope he proves me wrong but have not been convinced by him so far at test level.

                        I actually thought he had a very good game last week. Stood up when we needed someone early on with aussie on attack, did lots of stuff well. He's no Kaino yet, but he was decent

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                        @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        He's no Kaino

                        Not many are

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Nevorian And Clarke is particulary good under the high ball, to the point that the Crusaders plan was to NOT kick to him.

                          You saw a presentation at a pub didn't you

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                          @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Nevorian And Clarke is particulary good under the high ball, to the point that the Crusaders plan was to NOT kick to him.

                          You saw a presentation at a pub didn't you

                          Deep cut. I like.

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                            Jordie Barrett ahead of Will Jordan at 14 makes very little sense IMHO.

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                              Big blow for the Wallabies with O’Connor out now with a knee injury. With To’omua out for the season that means a completely reconstructed backline. Brumbies youngster Noah Lolesio, just 20, will come in as playmaker with Kiwi-born Irae Simone, his Brumbies partner, outside him.

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                                Frizell is playing well. The thing I worry about is the inconsistency of Karl T, Pat T, and Ofa. Could be a hard day at the office if these guys don't get their head right.

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                                  Like that Fozzie's kept the team as unchanged as possible with only injury changes in the starting 15 but able to try different things off the bench. Like the idea of Laumape coming on in the last 20 mins or so.

                                  Don't have a problem with Frizell at 6 as thought he went well & combined well in Bled 2 with Ardie & Sam. Just don't get Jordie at 14 though. Class player but out of position for me and can't see the logic of it.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Just don't get Jordie at 14 though. Class player but out of position for me and can't see the logic of it.

                                  I think having Reiko on the bench with Laumape strongly suggests that they are looking at Reiko getting a run on the wing. Jordie needs to be much more effective in the air to justify his place.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Jordie Barrett ahead of Will Jordan at 14 makes very little sense IMHO.

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                                    @sparky said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    Jordie Barrett ahead of Will Jordan at 14 makes very little sense IMHO.

                                    Has Fozzy mentioned Jordan at all?

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @gt12 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

                                      The TWM, like the previous TWM, probably see issues with Akira around his attitude.

                                      He's a talent though, and would be worth at least bringing him into the squad to see where his head is at. Hopefully, like Ali Williams, he'll come tight.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @gt12 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

                                      The TWM, like the previous TWM, probably see issues with Akira around his attitude.

                                      He's a talent though, and would be worth at least bringing him into the squad to see where his head is at. Hopefully, like Ali Williams, he'll come tight.

                                      Huh? He's already in the squad.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @gt12 said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Personally, I'd give Akira a go, but I can live with Frizell in the jersey.

                                        The TWM, like the previous TWM, probably see issues with Akira around his attitude.

                                        He's a talent though, and would be worth at least bringing him into the squad to see where his head is at. Hopefully, like Ali Williams, he'll come tight.

                                        Huh? He's already in the squad.

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                                        @Nepia

                                        My bad - meant the 23.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          don't loan out their farm animals.

                                          you lonely?

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                                          @mariner4life resourceful

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