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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • NTAN NTA

    Ah coolio

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

    "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
    ...
    The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

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    @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

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    • juniorJ junior

      @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      I'd still have the midfield swapped around but it went O.K. last week and they seem to be flexible about it on the field i.e the numbers don't matter too much.

      Fozzie obviously has a plan though - it's not a trivial move to swap these guys around.

      So does Jack offer a bit more size to run hard at the line - i.e. for Aaron Smith's try on Sunday? Or does ALB (and Rieko) offer a bit more speed at centre?

      Or is it more defensive?

      A and B i reckon. JG fair smacked in to the line a few times on the weekend, and created quick recycle. He's also solid defensively

      It makes sense, but my only concern with JG at 12 - currently - is his range of passing. We've seen it a couple of times over the past 2 tests that he's not so great with long passes and struggles particularly off his left. When playing 13, this is OK as he's required to throw generally shorter passes to a fullback hitting the line or a winger in space

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      @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

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      • chimoausC chimoaus

        @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

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        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

        Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

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        • NTAN NTA

          Ah coolio

          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

          "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
          ...
          The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

          09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

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          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          Ah coolio

          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

          "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
          ...
          The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

          09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

          Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            Ah coolio

            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

            "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
            ...
            The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

            09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

            Nice alternative jersey. A bit dark, I wonder if we will play in white?

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            @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

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            • NTAN NTA

              @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

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              @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @Kirwan I think the lighting on that shot isn't great. If it is anything like the colour of the indigenous jersey we wore at RWC19 it'll be a bit closer to a Bok shade of green.

              Hard for me to tell anyway, being mildly colourblind.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

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                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

                @junior

                Surely that was a miscommunication though? It didn't seem to slip out of the hand, I thought it looked like BB missed his assignment?

                It surely wasn't for anyone else, it was 3m short of Clarke on the wing.

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                  Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

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                  @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                  Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

                  How about WANTASS?

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                    Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                    Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

                    My opinion is that we are still in must win territory so hard to see many changes outside of injured or unavailable players being out or fit players returning. Jordie at 14 is definitely not the future but I am guessing Fozzie will be reluctant to put Reiko under the pressure of switching positions and we know he will not give Jordan a starting debut, if anything he would come off the bench so I think Jordie definitely starts again at 14.

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @antipodean said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      We need exactly the same team, because that's worth an extra seven points.

                      I wondered if that was per player? We could get more points by multiples of 7 for each guy that was put back in position?

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                      @Snowy yes I think Ben Darwin does mean that
                      "Ask a rugby player – in either code – to wear a different number on his back and fulfil a slightly less familiar role in a big game and, on average, his team score seven points fewer per game."
                      So if we play, what, 5 people out of position, then put them back..35 extra points!

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        Already a question mark on availability of Ardie, Reece and Nepo due to baby-watch. If this comes true then match day squad will change.

                        yes, hello, my name is mariner4life and i have a question

                        if you are a professional rugby player from NZ, why are you timing babies for mid to late October? in a normal year all 3 of those guys would be expecting to jet off to Europe about now.

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                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        if you are a professional rugby player from NZ, why are you timing babies for mid to late October? in a normal year all 3 of those guys would be expecting to jet off to Europe about now.

                        Everyone wants a Libran baby?!

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                          Ben Darwin:
                          "We say the All Blacks are amazing but there is nothing about them that is magical. If they were amazing they would still win even when they introduce new players in key positions. In fact, when they do, they perform exactly the same as everyone else. It’s what we put upon them that is magical. Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.”
                          So when you remove key players, the replacements aren't as good.
                          -"Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.” WTF?!

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @junior that attempted wide pass on Sunday was one to forget

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                            @mariner4life on watching that pass again im thinking someone wasnt where they were supposed to be, it was so far short of Clarke, yet BBarret was inside Clarke right where the pass woulda hit if he was up in the line.

                            Edit @voodoo got to it first

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              Ben Darwin:
                              "We say the All Blacks are amazing but there is nothing about them that is magical. If they were amazing they would still win even when they introduce new players in key positions. In fact, when they do, they perform exactly the same as everyone else. It’s what we put upon them that is magical. Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.”
                              So when you remove key players, the replacements aren't as good.
                              -"Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.” WTF?!

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                              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Ben Darwin:
                              "We say the All Blacks are amazing but there is nothing about them that is magical. If they were amazing they would still win even when they introduce new players in key positions. In fact, when they do, they perform exactly the same as everyone else. It’s what we put upon them that is magical. Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.”
                              So when you remove key players, the replacements aren't as good.
                              -"Nor is there statistical evidence that any coach is better than the norm.” WTF?!

                              Mentioning magic, aura etc. is starting on the back foot even if you are attempting to debunk it. Almost as bad as refusing to say All Blacks as if it is some incantation that strengthens them.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

                                My opinion is that we are still in must win territory so hard to see many changes outside of injured or unavailable players being out or fit players returning. Jordie at 14 is definitely not the future but I am guessing Fozzie will be reluctant to put Reiko under the pressure of switching positions and we know he will not give Jordan a starting debut, if anything he would come off the bench so I think Jordie definitely starts again at 14.

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                                @DMX said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                Can't see 6-8 changing as that looks to be his preferred option and 9-13 will probbly stay the same. Just don't get the Jordie Barrett selection. He deserves to be in the team, but at 14?

                                My opinion is that we are still in must win territory so hard to see many changes outside of injured or unavailable players being out or fit players returning. Jordie at 14 is definitely not the future but I am guessing Fozzie will be reluctant to put Reiko under the pressure of switching positions and we know he will not give Jordan a starting debut, if anything he would come off the bench so I think Jordie definitely starts again at 14.

                                I'm hoping that Fozzie reassesses his conservative selections and look at how well Clarke went in his first start. Put your best players out there, if a kid has been in better form select him.

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                  I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

                                  You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                  I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

                                  When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

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                                  @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                  I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

                                  You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                  I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

                                  When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

                                  The Wallabies weren't 20 points worse than us. Let down by handling errors at the wrong time, and the missed tackles. Still looked able to create holes in our defence, but struggled to finish with points. Didn't have the same line speed in defence either.
                                  Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly. The Aussies all had it in the first game, and Caleb Clarke pretty much personified it in game 2. So too ALB, and his defence made a big difference. To all those touting Ioane at centre - and I'm not anti him, he may well end up being a great one - have a good look at that, because it was a huge improvement.

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                                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    Be interesting to see if Fozzie makes changes other than injury related. Hope he doesn't

                                    I'm interested to see what happens there with Moody's situation, as well as any other niggles that get a look.

                                    You'd think, having won by 20, there won't be much to change, and the question is how Rennie responds.

                                    I didn't think there was much wrong with our side besides a couple of brainfarts, but Toomua's absence creates issues in terms of selecting a ball playing 12 with a boot who can bring maturity to that backline.

                                    When he went off, Paisami moved in, and I thought things got a little flaky through the middle there.

                                    The Wallabies weren't 20 points worse than us. Let down by handling errors at the wrong time, and the missed tackles. Still looked able to create holes in our defence, but struggled to finish with points. Didn't have the same line speed in defence either.
                                    Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly. The Aussies all had it in the first game, and Caleb Clarke pretty much personified it in game 2. So too ALB, and his defence made a big difference. To all those touting Ioane at centre - and I'm not anti him, he may well end up being a great one - have a good look at that, because it was a huge improvement.

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                                    @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly.

                                    Are you suggesting the Wallabies weren't motivated enough to win a Bledisloe Test on Kiwi soil and become the first foreign team to win there in about 30 years?

                                    πŸ€”

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                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                                      Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

                                      How about WANTASS?

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                                      @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @NTA I prefer this jersey, should wear this one as standard I reckon.

                                      Will be even better once we scrub "QANTAS" off the front.

                                      How about WANTASS?

                                      Funny story: a club here in Sydney that we play against for a Charity Event were offered sponsorship by a strip club.

                                      They knocked it back πŸ™‚

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly.

                                        Are you suggesting the Wallabies weren't motivated enough to win a Bledisloe Test on Kiwi soil and become the first foreign team to win there in about 30 years?

                                        πŸ€”

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                                        @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly.

                                        Are you suggesting the Wallabies weren't motivated enough to win a Bledisloe Test on Kiwi soil and become the first foreign team to win there in about 30 years?

                                        πŸ€”

                                        Plenty of motivation but it is fine margins and subconsciously coming off a win is different to coming off a loss.
                                        We were a little complacent in game 1, and massively fired up in game 2. Your guys had a big point to prove in game 1, and then think they belong in game 2. All it takes is a tiny % of slackening in the defensive line speed.

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                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly.

                                          Are you suggesting the Wallabies weren't motivated enough to win a Bledisloe Test on Kiwi soil and become the first foreign team to win there in about 30 years?

                                          πŸ€”

                                          Plenty of motivation but it is fine margins and subconsciously coming off a win is different to coming off a loss.
                                          We were a little complacent in game 1, and massively fired up in game 2. Your guys had a big point to prove in game 1, and then think they belong in game 2. All it takes is a tiny % of slackening in the defensive line speed.

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                                          @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @reprobate said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          Rugby when it is close has a lot to do with fire in the belly.

                                          Are you suggesting the Wallabies weren't motivated enough to win a Bledisloe Test on Kiwi soil and become the first foreign team to win there in about 30 years?

                                          πŸ€”

                                          Plenty of motivation but it is fine margins and subconsciously coming off a win is different to coming off a loss.
                                          We were a little complacent in game 1, and massively fired up in game 2. Your guys had a big point to prove in game 1, and then think they belong in game 2. All it takes is a tiny % of slackening in the defensive line speed.

                                          I thought the aussies started off very well, similar to the last game. But we were able to raise our level

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