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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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    h yes, it's time for "just wanted it more" and "played with more passion" which are all bullshit at the top level. Gregan said as much nigh on 20 years ago.

    The Wallabies were balls deep in the game for just about all of it. They had ascendency in a number of areas all afternoon. Small things made the difference, not many of them to do with psyche.

    The main difference was, to me at least, we managed to force a few more errors that our gameplan relies on. That came about because of a change in focus. This week was about being physical. I'm pretty sure the players said as much. It created us more opportunities to feed off. And we took those opportunitie.

    Australia created plenty of their own with some clever ball movement, but weren't able to take them. Bang, 20 points. Fire in the belly had fuck all to do with it.

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      @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      I thought the aussies started off very well, similar to the last game. But we were able to raise our level

      Thinking about the game, that was the most satisfying thing for me.

      Putting aside the standouts like Caleb Clarke, ALB and Sam Cane, it was hard to to spot anyone who wasn't playing really well. Pat T was a good example - took responsibility for a pretty raw 4/5 combination and really stepped up, esp. in the 2nd half.

      Maybe I'm imagining it, but there seems far fewer stupid decisions and errors from the AB's in these last 2 games (RI excepted) than in the recent past. Dunno whether that's Cane's captaincy - he seems calmer and less wild-eyed than Read - or Fozzie's coaching, but just hope it continues.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      I thought the aussies started off very well, similar to the last game. But we were able to raise our level

      Thinking about the game, that was the most satisfying thing for me.

      Putting aside the standouts like Caleb Clarke, ALB and Sam Cane, it was hard to to spot anyone who wasn't playing really well. Pat T was a good example - took responsibility for a pretty raw 4/5 combination and really stepped up, esp. in the 2nd half.

      Maybe I'm imagining it, but there seems far fewer stupid decisions and errors from the AB's in these last 2 games (RI excepted) than in the recent past. Dunno whether that's Cane's captaincy - he seems calmer and less wild-eyed than Read - or Fozzie's coaching, but just hope it continues.

      Sacrilege

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        I thought the aussies started off very well, similar to the last game. But we were able to raise our level

        Thinking about the game, that was the most satisfying thing for me.

        Putting aside the standouts like Caleb Clarke, ALB and Sam Cane, it was hard to to spot anyone who wasn't playing really well. Pat T was a good example - took responsibility for a pretty raw 4/5 combination and really stepped up, esp. in the 2nd half.

        Maybe I'm imagining it, but there seems far fewer stupid decisions and errors from the AB's in these last 2 games (RI excepted) than in the recent past. Dunno whether that's Cane's captaincy - he seems calmer and less wild-eyed than Read - or Fozzie's coaching, but just hope it continues.

        Sacrilege

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        @booboo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @canefan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        I thought the aussies started off very well, similar to the last game. But we were able to raise our level

        Thinking about the game, that was the most satisfying thing for me.

        Putting aside the standouts like Caleb Clarke, ALB and Sam Cane, it was hard to to spot anyone who wasn't playing really well. Pat T was a good example - took responsibility for a pretty raw 4/5 combination and really stepped up, esp. in the 2nd half.

        Maybe I'm imagining it, but there seems far fewer stupid decisions and errors from the AB's in these last 2 games (RI excepted) than in the recent past. Dunno whether that's Cane's captaincy - he seems calmer and less wild-eyed than Read - or Fozzie's coaching, but just hope it continues.

        Sacrilege

        Yes. Guards! Seize him!

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          h yes, it's time for "just wanted it more" and "played with more passion" which are all bullshit at the top level. Gregan said as much nigh on 20 years ago.

          The Wallabies were balls deep in the game for just about all of it. They had ascendency in a number of areas all afternoon. Small things made the difference, not many of them to do with psyche.

          The main difference was, to me at least, we managed to force a few more errors that our gameplan relies on. That came about because of a change in focus. This week was about being physical. I'm pretty sure the players said as much. It created us more opportunities to feed off. And we took those opportunitie.

          Australia created plenty of their own with some clever ball movement, but weren't able to take them. Bang, 20 points. Fire in the belly had fuck all to do with it.

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          @mariner4life I think you are partly right. I think the whole 'they wanted it more' motivation argument is probably not accurate. I think the Wallabies would have been plenty motivated at being the first team to win at Eden Park in 30 odd years and setting up two home games to reclaim the Bled.

          It's more about composure and execution under pressure. I think it is inevitable given the quality of the All Blacks that they put you under so much pressure you fail to execute. being able to recover composure after making errors is the key for me.

          I thought after that 5 minute period midway through the first half where we were sliced open like warm butter, we actually recovered quite well and began to reassert some control and started executing basic skills again. Then Matt Toomua went off and everything started to feel rushed and panicky. That lead to poor decisions and an inability to convert chances.

          And from 60 minutes onwards we had no composure at all. Everything was rushed, forced passes, dropping the pill cold, no direction in attack. We had plenty of good pill to work with and you guys defended with ease, already mentally at the pub.

          Edit: i think our composure has already improved greatly under DR. A Cheika team would have completely capitulated and lost by 30+ after that initial period of AB dominance midway through the first half.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            h yes, it's time for "just wanted it more" and "played with more passion" which are all bullshit at the top level. Gregan said as much nigh on 20 years ago.

            The Wallabies were balls deep in the game for just about all of it. They had ascendency in a number of areas all afternoon. Small things made the difference, not many of them to do with psyche.

            The main difference was, to me at least, we managed to force a few more errors that our gameplan relies on. That came about because of a change in focus. This week was about being physical. I'm pretty sure the players said as much. It created us more opportunities to feed off. And we took those opportunitie.

            Australia created plenty of their own with some clever ball movement, but weren't able to take them. Bang, 20 points. Fire in the belly had fuck all to do with it.

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            @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

            just wanted it more

            full credit to the boys though, they did well, it was a game of 2 halves and I think it was probably due to the ladies in the kitchen though, I mean, compared to the ladies in the kitchen in 1995, we have come along way!

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              Played hard. Done good.

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              • NTAN NTA

                Ah coolio

                https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                ...
                The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

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                @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Ah coolio

                https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                ...
                The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

                i like it, think i prefer the Gold with Green pattern versions of previous years though

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                  question, thoughts on the AB's alternate strip, do we feel as strongly about a white strip as we do the All Black? would people consider something with some Maori motifs? white with Black and Red?

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                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    Ah coolio

                    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/10/20/wallabies-to-wear-indigenous-jersey-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii-sydney-2020

                    "The Wallabies will wear their Indigenous jersey twice during the 2020 Test season, including against the All Blacks in Bledisloe III in Sydney on October 31.
                    ...
                    The Wallabies will also wear the jersey against Argentina during their Tri-Nations clash at Bankwest Stadium on December 5. "

                    09f04694-5e94-4e35-9e28-c191386cbc11-image.png

                    i like it, think i prefer the Gold with Green pattern versions of previous years though

                    alt text

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                    @Kiwiwomble agreed. Gold one is my first choice. The new one with the white is third. I thought the one from RWC last year was pretty good as well and comes in second

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      question, thoughts on the AB's alternate strip, do we feel as strongly about a white strip as we do the All Black? would people consider something with some Maori motifs? white with Black and Red?

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                      As long as it's not fucking grey.

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                        As long as it's not fucking grey.

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                        @Snowy dont know what you mean......:unamused_face: ...why would we ever have grey

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Snowy dont know what you mean......:unamused_face: ...why would we ever have grey

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          @Snowy dont know what you mean......:unamused_face: ...why would we ever have grey

                          We shouldn't ever, ever! If the French aren't pissing around with their blue then it is only the Scots that screw it up.

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            question, thoughts on the AB's alternate strip, do we feel as strongly about a white strip as we do the All Black? would people consider something with some Maori motifs? white with Black and Red?

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            question, thoughts on the AB's alternate strip, do we feel as strongly about a white strip as we do the All Black? would people consider something with some Maori motifs? white with Black and Red?

                            I believe an AB jersey shouldn't be messed around with too much, however I reckon some subtle Maori designs on the white strip could be quite cool.

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                              As long as it's not fucking grey.

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                              @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                              As long as it's not fucking grey.

                              Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                                As long as it's not fucking grey.

                                Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

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                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                                As long as it's not fucking grey.

                                Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

                                Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

                                It confuses Australians all the time.

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                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                                  As long as it's not fucking grey.

                                  Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

                                  Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

                                  It confuses Australians all the time.

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                                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                                  As long as it's not fucking grey.

                                  Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

                                  Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

                                  It confuses Australians all the time.

                                  It cracked me up when I learned that the colour Aussies insist on calling Gold (from their beloved Green and Gold) had a Pantone code with the name 'Yellow'

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    thoughts on the AB's alternate strip,

                                    As long as it's not fucking grey.

                                    Or 'Silver' :confounded_face: :confounded_face:

                                    Silver isn't a colour it's a metal - grey is a colour. Just the same as gold is a metal, and yellow is a colour.

                                    It confuses Australians all the time.

                                    It cracked me up when I learned that the colour Aussies insist on calling Gold (from their beloved Green and Gold) had a Pantone code with the name 'Yellow'

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                                    @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

                                      Sadly not.

                                      It is (according to Pantone) a part of the Yellow spectrum and I will admit that it is closer in composition to a shade called 'Golden' (as opposed to Gold) than to pure yellow.
                                      But it is still yellow.

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        @Crucial "Canary Yellow"

                                        Sadly not.

                                        It is (according to Pantone) a part of the Yellow spectrum and I will admit that it is closer in composition to a shade called 'Golden' (as opposed to Gold) than to pure yellow.
                                        But it is still yellow.

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                                        @Crucial the correct response is "that's Australian gold my friend and don't you fucking forget it"...or am I the only one that use to listen the the 12th man?

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                                          If I could bring myself to touch a Wallaby jeysey I would colour match it with my spectrophotometre, but as a Dulux colour (which all have Kiwi names in NZ) it looks like Rotorua, so it would probably smell bad too and looks like sulphur.

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