Golf
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@broughie Brooks is a fucking good player, when he's on, only a few can stick with him.
In other news, Fox picks up a special temp spot on the tour
https://www.instagram.com/p/Csh3D3KoISi/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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https://www.espn.com.au/golf/story/_/id/37806151/pga-tour-liv-golf-unify-2023-twitter-response
I always thought coexistence was inevitable. But this is quicker than I expected
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somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.
I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.
In the end, this is the best outcome.
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somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.
I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.
In the end, this is the best outcome.
@taniwharugby said in Golf:
somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.
I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.
In the end, this is the best outcome.
I see there are PGA players feeling a little butthurt about being told that LIV was the enemy for 2 years. They should console themselves with the fact that LIV has improved their conditions, and I'm sure there will be more monetary opportunities for them all. They should have realised this was purely a battle for leverage over the money that the game generates
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@taniwharugby said in Golf:
somehow the egos of Monahan and Norman were able to come to an agreement and the tours will be able to co exist.
I don't imagine all those huge signing bonuses on the LIV tour will be about anymore, so those already made some abnormally large coin just to join, although I expect they will still be tied to LIV in whatever form it takes going forward.
In the end, this is the best outcome.
I see there are PGA players feeling a little butthurt about being told that LIV was the enemy for 2 years. They should console themselves with the fact that LIV has improved their conditions, and I'm sure there will be more monetary opportunities for them all. They should have realised this was purely a battle for leverage over the money that the game generates
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@canefan ha yep, what are they gonna do, retire?
If they didnt see this as an inevitable outcome, albeit it a bit sooner than anticipated, then they were pretty naive!
@taniwharugby said in Golf:
@canefan ha yep, what are they gonna do, retire?
If they didnt see this as an inevitable outcome, albeit it a bit sooner than anticipated, then they were pretty naive!
In fact, behind the scenes, they should have been making big demands on the PGA to improve things. Or based on the new special tournaments, maybe they did?
I agree, all this whining seems very to smack of naivete. A bunch of them are mates anyway
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@taniwharugby said in Golf:
@canefan ha yep, what are they gonna do, retire?
If they didnt see this as an inevitable outcome, albeit it a bit sooner than anticipated, then they were pretty naive!
In fact, behind the scenes, they should have been making big demands on the PGA to improve things. Or based on the new special tournaments, maybe they did?
I agree, all this whining seems very to smack of naivete. A bunch of them are mates anyway
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@canefan yea I think alot of the stuff in media was orchestrated.
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@taniwharugby said in Golf:
@canefan yea I think alot of the stuff in media was orchestrated.
By my count, the rebels won't even probably miss one Ryder Cup? Brooks, Bryson et al be like
Tiger Woods passing on that reported $800M be like
@canefan am sure old Tiger has enough dollars...
Loads of people venting from pga side, smug from the other.
Just play golf fluffybunnies
Assume the new information included a big pile of Saudi cash
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtKiQmUP1W_/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Currently in the US.
Spent time in Sausalito / Tiburon surrounded by houses / ppl worth 10mm plus.
Spent time in SF around ppl pissing and shitting in the streets.
Excuse me for not being happy for a whole bunch of ppl worth 20mm+ now being worth 50mm+.
Whole thing makes me ill.
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It's pretty dire behaviour from Jay Monahan and the PGA tour.
More than happy to allow 9/11 families to lead the charge against LIV, and rail from the highest of horses. But now Jay's played 36 with Yasir Al-Rummayyan everything's sweet.
Also, this is not a merger. This is the PIF basically taking a minority stake in the PGA tour. Very likely it means the end of LIV golf. I hope it doesn't end the global spread of tournaments, but I fear it might end that as well.
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It's pretty dire behaviour from Jay Monahan and the PGA tour.
More than happy to allow 9/11 families to lead the charge against LIV, and rail from the highest of horses. But now Jay's played 36 with Yasir Al-Rummayyan everything's sweet.
Also, this is not a merger. This is the PIF basically taking a minority stake in the PGA tour. Very likely it means the end of LIV golf. I hope it doesn't end the global spread of tournaments, but I fear it might end that as well.
@barbarian plenty to be rightfully pissed, but probably not too many can now stand on those morals and retire though.
Amazing how 1 man (Monahan) can effectively wield so much power though
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It's pretty dire behaviour from Jay Monahan and the PGA tour.
More than happy to allow 9/11 families to lead the charge against LIV, and rail from the highest of horses. But now Jay's played 36 with Yasir Al-Rummayyan everything's sweet.
Also, this is not a merger. This is the PIF basically taking a minority stake in the PGA tour. Very likely it means the end of LIV golf. I hope it doesn't end the global spread of tournaments, but I fear it might end that as well.
@barbarian I am not sure about international tournaments. I think that will be one of the positives to come out of this as well as new ideas on format and ambiance.
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https://www.espn.com.au/golf/story/_/id/37847691/pga-players-feel-betrayed-leadership-liv-union
These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?
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https://www.espn.com.au/golf/story/_/id/37847691/pga-players-feel-betrayed-leadership-liv-union
These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?
https://www.espn.com.au/golf/story/_/id/37847691/pga-players-feel-betrayed-leadership-liv-union
These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?
Fair shout IMHO
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https://www.espn.com.au/golf/story/_/id/37847691/pga-players-feel-betrayed-leadership-liv-union
These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?
These golfers are acting pretty damn butthurt over the LIV PGA peace deal. Are they more niave than I gave them credit for? What did they think was going to happen? I hope they didn't assume the PGA had their best interests at heart and that they weren't simply pawns in a power play?
What did they think was going to happen?
Well, I suspect when they took a stand against LIV by not signing on for 200mm, I think they thought they would have had the backing of their employers who they were staying loyal to & had both publicly and privately made their intentions clear to stand together.
Instead, all that happened is that those that didn't stay loyal, banked 200mm, and ended up with all the same rights.
If I was Rahm or McIlroy, I'd take a look at my bank balance, realise I never had to work again and walk away forever.
EDIT: In my view, that is the only thing you can do if you want to be stand by your principles. Well, or quit the PGA and become a European tour only.
