Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

[Siam]

@gt12 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

Fuck yeah

We started that game, after their bloody clever try, by twice going through 20 plus phases of smart disciplined ball retention. It was fucking fantastic with props not pop passing, holding the ball, percentage ruck and run. Like great decisions being made by each ball carrier.

I loved it! Remarked that it was as good as I've seen for a bit, and surely a portent for something clinical to follow.

Like fuck

[Duluth]

@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

I know people are saying ALB/JG but if they play JG/ALB I think I would prefer ALB/RI!

I thought that combo worked well in the North v South match

[Canes4life]

@Kirwan he doesn’t pass the ball though that’s the problem.

Umaga Jensen is a better centre anyway.

[Kiwiwomble]

@gt12 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

That’s actually what I was saying, when we did keep the ball and play with it we scored...but didn’t keep doing it, started throwing it around, anyone anywhere in the line, kicking it away and hoping for a mistake

[Kirwan]

@Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Kirwan he doesn’t pass the ball though that’s the problem.

Sure he does.

[voodoo]

@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

We found our 6, our gap at 9, our gap at 12, and 14.
Even Bridge >Reece.
Wonder if Cane is beaten up but tried all night.
I thought Rieko was really good in defense, was oten isolated but that may have been because he is so darn fast and back up was patchy.
I know people are saying ALB/JG but if they play JG/ALB I think I would prefer ALB/RI!
Oh and the NL/ALB was a complete misfire tonight. Is NL matchfit?

ALB at 12 and Reiko at 13 might be the best combo, wonder if they try it?

I think if they had a RWC final tomorrow, they'd pick JG/ALB with Reiko on the bench or wing.

I dunno what's best anymore, but the 1 constant seems to be ALB in th midfield mix.

[KiwiMurph]

@Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Kirwan he doesn’t pass the ball though that’s the problem.

Umaga Jensen is a better centre anyway.

I agree.

[Tim]

@Canes4life he never passes it. That's such a good and accurate point. How shit was perenara tonight?

[Kiwiwomble]

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@gt12 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

This is the real problem with the ABs game play of just punishing on the counter, when forced to change plan it’s hard to suddenly try and take control of the game, slow it down, play for territory etc

Some of these guys just have the rugby smarts to change from fast and loose everyone can one hand offload to traditional roles etc

I disagree. We held the ball and scored from it early.

Then we decided that we didn’t want to play that way. Went back to kicking it away and trying to play off turnovers. And?

If the question is whether it’s coaching, selection, or player decisions, I think the answer is yes.

The kicking is fine because it’s better to be down in the right half, but the execution was off.

Especially with Hodge who eats 50 metre penalties for breakfast.

But we were box kicking for 10-20m gains and hoping for a turnover/mistake

[ACT Crusader]

@Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

Biggest worry for me is mental attitude when under the pump. Key players in the team just seem to go to pieces.

These players aren’t robots so are susceptible to pressure and circumstance. Even the very best AB teams have been put under the grill and not won. Just shows that sometimes it’s such a small margin between winning and losing.

It’s not meant to be a cop out, but there is an opportunity to learn from it and hopefully those that played tonight and get selected next week will do some things differently.

From my perspective we played poorly by the standards we’ve seen this year, but that’s sport where one week you are champions and the next you can look like a schoolboy side.

Aussies played well for periods but they also turned the ball over a hell of a lot too and looked scrappy. They got away with quite a few hands in the ruck but they tested the whistle in that regard. Some excellent individual play from Marika certainly was a big plus for them.

[akan004]

@Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

@Tim Reiko needs to learn how to pass the ball before he gets anywhere near that AB 13 jersey again. Leave him on the wing where he belongs.

So you like players that can pass well, unless that player is TJ.

[kpkanz]

Backline, top in their position currently...

9. Smith
10. Mounga
11. Clarke
12. ALB
13. Rieko
14. ...
15. BB (had to deal with TJP tonight)

I think Jordan can make the 14 jersey his own, and honestly i think he could be the best fullback in the country as well.

21. Weber
22. Goodhue
23. Dmac

[Tim]

Perenara has been a big turd off the bench since the Lions tests. Garbage idiot focussed on yelling at the ref.

[kev]

@nostrildamus the comments on here have been about a lack of composure. Jacks strength is he is a really good decision maker and stays in the pattern making sure he does he does the basics well. Reiko still gets lost on D at centre and his passing game needs work. The selectors will go back to JG/ALB combo.

[Canes4life]

@Tim and how good was Ardie tonight?

[Tim]

@Canes4life Not a number 8.

[Canes4life]

@kpkanz said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

Backline, top in their position currently...

9. Smith
10. Mounga
11. Clarke
12. ALB
13. Rieko Umaga-Jensen
14. ...
15. BB (had to deal with TJP tonight)

I think Jordan can make the 14 jersey his own, and honestly i think he could be the best fullback in the country as well.

21. Weber
22. Goodhue
23. Dmac

[Gunner]

This is easily our best backline

9 AS
10 RM
11 CC
12 JG
13 ALB
14 RI
15 BB

Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

[Tim]

@Canes4life Did fuck all on defense. Impact player at best.

[Canes4life]

@Tim You’re just trolling now.