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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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  • K kpkanz

    Backline, top in their position currently...

    1. Smith
    2. Mounga
    3. Clarke
    4. ALB
    5. Rieko
    6. ...
    7. BB (had to deal with TJP tonight)

    I think Jordan can make the 14 jersey his own, and honestly i think he could be the best fullback in the country as well.

    1. Weber
    2. Goodhue
    3. Dmac
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    @kpkanz said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Backline, top in their position currently...

    1. Smith
    2. Mounga
    3. Clarke
    4. ALB
    5. Rieko Umaga-Jensen
    6. ...
    7. BB (had to deal with TJP tonight)

    I think Jordan can make the 14 jersey his own, and honestly i think he could be the best fullback in the country as well.

    1. Weber
    2. Goodhue
    3. Dmac
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      This is easily our best backline

      9 AS
      10 RM
      11 CC
      12 JG
      13 ALB
      14 RI
      15 BB

      Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Tim and how good was Ardie tonight?

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        @Canes4life Did fuck all on defense. Impact player at best.

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        • TimT Tim

          @Canes4life Did fuck all on defense. Impact player at best.

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          @Tim You’re just trolling now.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Tim You’re just trolling now.

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            @Canes4life You clearly don't watch the games, which explains your takes.

            Savea only made.go forward from the 60th minute onward. He is impact player at best.

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            • GunnerG Gunner

              This is easily our best backline

              9 AS
              10 RM
              11 CC
              12 JG
              13 ALB
              14 RI
              15 BB

              Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

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              @Gunner said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              This is easily our best backline

              9 AS

              10 RM

              11 CC

              12 JG

              13 ALB

              14 RI

              15 BB

              Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

              I actually feel Jordies test future is in the midfield. Don't think his skillset suits an outside back role.
              But I also feel ALB/Rieko could become an amazing midfield combo and perhaps our top midfield combo for the next 4 year cycle.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Tim and how good was Ardie tonight?

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                @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                @Tim and how good was Ardie tonight?

                In the second half?

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                • TimT Tim

                  @Canes4life You clearly don't watch the games, which explains your takes.

                  Savea only made.go forward from the 60th minute onward. He is impact player at best.

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                  @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                  Wake up.

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                    Weren’t we all saying savea should have gone off rather than Akira? I thought he was quiet in the first half but stepped up in the second

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                      Biggest worry for me is mental attitude when under the pump. Key players in the team just seem to go to pieces.

                      These players aren’t robots so are susceptible to pressure and circumstance. Even the very best AB teams have been put under the grill and not won. Just shows that sometimes it’s such a small margin between winning and losing.

                      It’s not meant to be a cop out, but there is an opportunity to learn from it and hopefully those that played tonight and get selected next week will do some things differently.

                      From my perspective we played poorly by the standards we’ve seen this year, but that’s sport where one week you are champions and the next you can look like a schoolboy side.

                      Aussies played well for periods but they also turned the ball over a hell of a lot too and looked scrappy. They got away with quite a few hands in the ruck but they tested the whistle in that regard. Some excellent individual play from Marika certainly was a big plus for them.

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                      These players aren’t robots so are susceptible to pressure and circumstance. Even the very best AB teams have been put under the grill and not won. Just shows that sometimes it’s such a small margin between winning and losing.
                      It’s not meant to be a cop out, but there is an opportunity to learn from it and hopefully those that played tonight and get selected next week will do some things differently.

                      Not being unsympathetic to the players when I say this, but I guess my concern is the slow learning path, particularly from players with a couple of years of AB experience under their belts.

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                        Great to see the Wallabies continue their long standing tradition of winning the games that don't really matter.

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                          At the end of the day, you have to say hats off to the Oz team for a good enough performance, but equally question why we decided to make so many changes to our team.

                          We essentially set up Akira, Grace, and Jordan to have poor starts in the AB jersey. We learned nothing about any of them (maybe that Akira can go ok at this level),

                          I’m not sure I understand the logic of swapping out so many players and having such a young and inexperienced bench, that then the coaches wouldn’t use it.

                          Wouldn’t it be better to just put them out there in the starting side and have some seniority on the bench if things go wrong?

                          Many of our problems are about selectorial strategy and our use of the bench - not all - but enough to ask the three supposedly wise men to pull in the fucking heads and come up with a better strategy for developing players.

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                          • GunnerG Gunner

                            This is easily our best backline

                            9 AS
                            10 RM
                            11 CC
                            12 JG
                            13 ALB
                            14 RI
                            15 BB

                            Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

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                            @Gunner said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            Edit - but we know the coaches will put JB at 14.

                            Not too sure after Reiko's game today. One of his best all-round games in Black.

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                              It's amazing that the AB coaches have seen four years of an undersized, non-passing league player and decided that he should play test rugby.

                              How fucking dumb can you be to watch rugby and make that decision.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                Wake up.

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                                @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                Wake up.

                                If only the selectors had woken up when picking the team and realised that TJ is shit. Would have won with a different halfback.

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                                  @nostrildamus the comments on here have been about a lack of composure. Jacks strength is he is a really good decision maker and stays in the pattern making sure he does he does the basics well. Reiko still gets lost on D at centre and his passing game needs work. The selectors will go back to JG/ALB combo.

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                                  @kev said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  Reiko still gets lost on D at centre and his passing game needs work.

                                  Based on today, his time at 13 has paid dividends with his defensive work. Outstanding today.

                                  He could become a really good 13 but needs developing there. Start him at 11 and move him in when the bench comes on. Stick to the JG/ALB combination as 1st choice.

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                                    @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                    Wake up.

                                    If only the selectors had woken up when picking the team and realised that TJ is shit. Would have won with a different halfback.

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                                    @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                    Wake up.

                                    If only the selectors had woken up when picking the team and realised that TJ is shit. Would have won with a different halfback.

                                    This is the concerning part for me. He has a mortgage on the backup halfback spot year after year.

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                                      I thought Savea wasn't the problem (although my pref is Sotutu at 8).
                                      Midfield_I forgot about PUJ. I guess I am saying ALB is best option at 12 (and a good 13) but unless the game plan is very tight JG has some limitations (although he was really solid at 13 last year).
                                      The biggest worry though is the ABs are supposed to have enough experience not to go to shit so badly. I was just getting into blah mode with Foster and now I am slipping back into ergh

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                        Wake up.

                                        If only the selectors had woken up when picking the team and realised that TJ is shit. Would have won with a different halfback.

                                        This is the concerning part for me. He has a mortgage on the backup halfback spot year after year.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @akan004 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Canes4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                        @Tim he was into everything all night. Wtf were you watching? He made about three big carries in the first half and two clean turnovers. Don’t you remember Marshall harping on about his leg drive in that first half?

                                        Wake up.

                                        If only the selectors had woken up when picking the team and realised that TJ is shit. Would have won with a different halfback.

                                        This is the concerning part for me. He has a mortgage on the backup halfback spot year after year.

                                        Yeah, I just don't understand the loyalty shown towards him. If he can't get his core role right, he shouldn't be picked.

                                        Even more baffling when you consider the age profile of the halfbacks selected. Need to start developing some young halfbacks for the next RWC.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          It's amazing that the AB coaches have seen four years of an undersized, non-passing league player and decided that he should play test rugby.

                                          How fucking dumb can you be to watch rugby and make that decision.

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                                          @Tim he looked pretty darn good running over and through your precious Blues earlier in the season.

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