Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
To be fair he led a team around the park to beat the ABs a week after they had a record score put on them. Did ya see the wallabies first try? A sweeter chip kick you'll never see.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
To be fair he led a team around the park to beat the ABs a week after they had a record score put on them. Did ya see the wallabies first try? A sweeter chip kick you'll never see.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
To be fair he led a team around the park to beat the ABs a week after they had a record score put on them. Did ya see the wallabies first try? A sweeter chip kick you'll never see.
Beauden Barrett would have been looking at that chip kick going "fuck that is almost as arsey a bounce as mine!"
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
To be fair he led a team around the park to beat the ABs a week after they had a record score put on them. Did ya see the wallabies first try? A sweeter chip kick you'll never see.
Beauden Barrett would have been looking at that chip kick going "fuck that is almost as arsey a bounce as mine!"
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Cue Fox Sports saying new dawn for Aus rugby and the ABs are poo. Ugh. Can't wait till we sign with 9.
Didn't watch this live and surprised we won - that AB team looked really strong on paper. It's good to know that if the ABs lost their two best halves they'd be in as much strife as Aus are (how fugn bad were TJP and BB?).
How on earth does JBar keep getting picked? I mentioned on here ages ago that i'd never seen him have a good game and got ripped into. He's basically a poor man's Reece Hodge. Long may his tenured selection continue.
Surely you jest? If Hodge didn't take those occasional 70m kicks you wouldn't even know he was on the field. JB had an ordinary game, but he wasn't the only AB unfortunately.
To be fair he led a team around the park to beat the ABs a week after they had a record score put on them. Did ya see the wallabies first try? A sweeter chip kick you'll never see.
Beauden Barrett would have been looking at that chip kick going "fuck that is almost as arsey a bounce as mine!"
Let's not get carried away. BB's would have bounced directly to the winger to go in untouched.
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Geez I'm surprised at the people climbing into Laumape (apart from @Tim ). Not really sure what he could have done outside the arseclownery that was going on inside him, he was on a beating to nothing. I'd still like to see what he has to offer in a proper team.
One that doesn't have the halfback leaving the ball in the scrum while it's getting mullered or running up to the breakdown and pointing at all the gaps so the opposition can fill them and not releasing the ball until they have.
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While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
McDermott didn't even bother with the fakery of rolling it back with his foot and just batted it back with his hands a couple of times.
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Weber's pass was at his wobbly SRA standards the first couple and maybe one or two after but at least he was distributing the ball.
The worst part about Perenara other than his typical mouthy carry on was he'd take so long and then still throw it at someone's ankles and/or behind them.
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Weber's pass was at his wobbly SRA standards the first couple and maybe one or two after but at least he was distributing the ball.
The worst part about Perenara other than his typical mouthy carry on was he'd take so long and then still throw it at someone's ankles and/or behind them.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Weber's pass was at his wobbly SRA standards the first couple and maybe one or two after but at least he was distributing the ball.
The worst part about Perenara other than his typical mouthy carry on was he'd take so long and then still throw it at someone's ankles and/or behind them.
I agree Weber still tends to have his 10s reach for a lot of his passes, but at least he gets it out pronto so that said reaching is somewhat mitigated. TJ's ponderous approach to getting the ball out is only made worse by the way his passes tend float and then drop just as whomever is outside is about to grasp.
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While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
McDermott didn't even bother with the fakery of rolling it back with his foot and just batted it back with his hands a couple of times.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
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Weber's pass was at his wobbly SRA standards the first couple and maybe one or two after but at least he was distributing the ball.
The worst part about Perenara other than his typical mouthy carry on was he'd take so long and then still throw it at someone's ankles and/or behind them.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Weber's pass was at his wobbly SRA standards the first couple and maybe one or two after but at least he was distributing the ball.
The worst part about Perenara other than his typical mouthy carry on was he'd take so long and then still throw it at someone's ankles and/or behind them.
I thought I was watching late career Weepu last night and the absolute eternity for the ball to come out of the ruck.
The irony was him trying to “speed up” the play by taking a quick tap, yet it was slow mo from the ruck.
It was just disappointing all round game from TJ. I really hope he bounces back if he gets a shot against the Argies.
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Anyone know where us UK Ferners can watch 'missing' minutes 54-59?
Here’s a preview
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I want to see PUJ starting or given significant minutes off the bench.
He provides the finesse and required size at either 12 or 13.
@Frank not disagreeing but he is more of a 13, no?
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
What, even if you're playing it with your hands and then lifting it?
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Seeing a bit of talk (Rugbypass ratings and on here) about BB and the silly kicking
The same style of short kicking worked last week, and nobody thought it was anything but clever when they were tearing the Wobs a new one
The comment above about things not really changing since Hansen is accurate IMHO.
Similarly, AB fans have been so conditioned to BB pulling off miracle bullshit like lucky bounces and regathers on the sideline that it looks worse when it doesn't come off.
Don't get me wrong: fantastic player. His counterattack is mindblowing at times (when you're not the opposition
) but sometimes his broad skillset simply doesn't come off - like the AB game plan of defending until you get to counterattack.To the Wallaby game plan for a minute: attacking wide from the get go looked like the strategy but it was risky as shit. Like BB's play book not coming off, this is what happened last week as we continually dropped the ball or exposed ourselves to a short defence against a willing counter.
There seemed to be a notable shift as the second half wore on of attacking in close to draw defenders - not that it mattered because we got the job done through the guts and (again: miraculously) didn't drop the ball.
It looked a bit like Perth in that suddenly we looked like a Test rugby side instead of 23 blokes who met in the carpark for a game of touch.
And we still only won by 2.
It was the clearing kicks that were the problem. Mo’unga had the ball on a string last week with depth and chasers.
Barrett’s kicking was off and put us under pressure last night.
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Seeing a bit of talk (Rugbypass ratings and on here) about BB and the silly kicking
The same style of short kicking worked last week, and nobody thought it was anything but clever when they were tearing the Wobs a new one
The comment above about things not really changing since Hansen is accurate IMHO.
Similarly, AB fans have been so conditioned to BB pulling off miracle bullshit like lucky bounces and regathers on the sideline that it looks worse when it doesn't come off.
Don't get me wrong: fantastic player. His counterattack is mindblowing at times (when you're not the opposition
) but sometimes his broad skillset simply doesn't come off - like the AB game plan of defending until you get to counterattack.To the Wallaby game plan for a minute: attacking wide from the get go looked like the strategy but it was risky as shit. Like BB's play book not coming off, this is what happened last week as we continually dropped the ball or exposed ourselves to a short defence against a willing counter.
There seemed to be a notable shift as the second half wore on of attacking in close to draw defenders - not that it mattered because we got the job done through the guts and (again: miraculously) didn't drop the ball.
It looked a bit like Perth in that suddenly we looked like a Test rugby side instead of 23 blokes who met in the carpark for a game of touch.
And we still only won by 2.
It was the clearing kicks that were the problem. Mo’unga had the ball on a string last week with depth and chasers.
Barrett’s kicking was off and put us under pressure last night.
Not the first time we have seen this from BB , somehow his kicking game from 10 has been wanting in the past and when you combine that with the backs being static off his passing he just seems to operate better at 15.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
Caterpillar ruck is fine. The issue is allowing the halfback to keep his hands on the ball for so long and, even worse, allowing him to drag it along the ground while it is still technically "in"
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Seeing a bit of talk (Rugbypass ratings and on here) about BB and the silly kicking
The same style of short kicking worked last week, and nobody thought it was anything but clever when they were tearing the Wobs a new one
The comment above about things not really changing since Hansen is accurate IMHO.
Similarly, AB fans have been so conditioned to BB pulling off miracle bullshit like lucky bounces and regathers on the sideline that it looks worse when it doesn't come off.
Don't get me wrong: fantastic player. His counterattack is mindblowing at times (when you're not the opposition
) but sometimes his broad skillset simply doesn't come off - like the AB game plan of defending until you get to counterattack.To the Wallaby game plan for a minute: attacking wide from the get go looked like the strategy but it was risky as shit. Like BB's play book not coming off, this is what happened last week as we continually dropped the ball or exposed ourselves to a short defence against a willing counter.
There seemed to be a notable shift as the second half wore on of attacking in close to draw defenders - not that it mattered because we got the job done through the guts and (again: miraculously) didn't drop the ball.
It looked a bit like Perth in that suddenly we looked like a Test rugby side instead of 23 blokes who met in the carpark for a game of touch.
And we still only won by 2.
It was the clearing kicks that were the problem. Mo’unga had the ball on a string last week with depth and chasers.
Barrett’s kicking was off and put us under pressure last night.
Not the first time we have seen this from BB , somehow his kicking game from 10 has been wanting in the past and when you combine that with the backs being static off his passing he just seems to operate better at 15.
@DMX said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Seeing a bit of talk (Rugbypass ratings and on here) about BB and the silly kicking
The same style of short kicking worked last week, and nobody thought it was anything but clever when they were tearing the Wobs a new one
The comment above about things not really changing since Hansen is accurate IMHO.
Similarly, AB fans have been so conditioned to BB pulling off miracle bullshit like lucky bounces and regathers on the sideline that it looks worse when it doesn't come off.
Don't get me wrong: fantastic player. His counterattack is mindblowing at times (when you're not the opposition
) but sometimes his broad skillset simply doesn't come off - like the AB game plan of defending until you get to counterattack.To the Wallaby game plan for a minute: attacking wide from the get go looked like the strategy but it was risky as shit. Like BB's play book not coming off, this is what happened last week as we continually dropped the ball or exposed ourselves to a short defence against a willing counter.
There seemed to be a notable shift as the second half wore on of attacking in close to draw defenders - not that it mattered because we got the job done through the guts and (again: miraculously) didn't drop the ball.
It looked a bit like Perth in that suddenly we looked like a Test rugby side instead of 23 blokes who met in the carpark for a game of touch.
And we still only won by 2.
It was the clearing kicks that were the problem. Mo’unga had the ball on a string last week with depth and chasers.
Barrett’s kicking was off and put us under pressure last night.
Not the first time we have seen this from BB , somehow his kicking game from 10 has been wanting in the past and when you combine that with the backs being static of his passing he just seems to operate better at 15.
And this begs the question why we don't use Jordie's booming punt to clear the lines more often...?
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At the risk of sounding like a wannabe front rower again, how good was that passage of play where Tupou carried twice in the lead up then crashed over? Awesome work rate, thought it was really evident as to what we miss there.
@voodoo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
At the risk of sounding like a wannabe front rower again, how good was that passage of play where Tupou carried twice in the lead up then crashed over? Awesome work rate, thought it was really evident as to what we miss there.
Am I being harsh if I say I thought Tupou should have released the ball earlier in his first charge? When he went to ground, I thought he had cost us the try as there were unmarked players outside him.
Having said that, full credit for bouncing back and correcting the mistake quickly.
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
At the risk of sounding like a wannabe front rower again, how good was that passage of play where Tupou carried twice in the lead up then crashed over? Awesome work rate, thought it was really evident as to what we miss there.
Am I being harsh if I say I thought Tupou should have released the ball earlier in his first charge? When he went to ground, I thought he had cost us the try as there were unmarked players outside him.
Having said that, full credit for bouncing back and correcting the mistake quickly.
@PecoTrain entirely possible, I can't recall tbh. I just loved the effort and energy and desire to carry repeatedly.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
Caterpillar ruck is fine. The issue is allowing the halfback to keep his hands on the ball for so long and, even worse, allowing him to drag it along the ground while it is still technically "in"
@junior said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
While I'm on halfbacks. That setup the Aussies do for box kicks is fucken atrocious and should be stamped out. White picks the ball up for about 5 seconds and fucks about before kicking it, the whole time the ref saying it's still in. It's fucken not!
Caterpillar ruck is a blight on the game.
However it is still in provided it is under a bound player.
Caterpillar ruck is fine. The issue is allowing the halfback to keep his hands on the ball for so long and, even worse, allowing him to drag it along the ground while it is still technically "in"
I remember Berry did say to White/McDermott that they needed to use their feet not hands on one occasion, but there was no consistency at all as most of the time he ignored it.
