Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
And he called JK and Cully decent blokes but not Kearns and Horan. Probably a stupid question but if they were such serious head contacts shouldn’t have the players hit been sent for HIAs?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
And he called JK and Cully decent blokes but not Kearns and Horan. Probably a stupid question but if they were such serious head contacts shouldn’t have the players hit been sent for HIAs?
@Nevorian said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
And he called JK and Cully decent blokes but not Kearns and Horan. Probably a stupid question but if they were such serious head contacts shouldn’t have the players hit been sent for HIAs?
Whitelock certainly should have been, that was significant contact
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Hmm I moved the posts about Swinton's four weeks ban here but they never turned up
No idea why
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@Nevorian said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
And he called JK and Cully decent blokes but not Kearns and Horan. Probably a stupid question but if they were such serious head contacts shouldn’t have the players hit been sent for HIAs?
Whitelock certainly should have been, that was significant contact
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Nevorian said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Funny article...
The fact that he singles out Cully, JK, Kearns and Horan, yet barely Marshalls comment is more a passing comment
And he called JK and Cully decent blokes but not Kearns and Horan. Probably a stupid question but if they were such serious head contacts shouldn’t have the players hit been sent for HIAs?
Whitelock certainly should have been, that was significant contact
And lateral contact as well - tends to make the potential for concussion worse.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It was as blatant as it gets on replay
I've had a thought about this.
Were we on a warning? Or were they so hot on attack that this was a professional foul that prevented a possible try?
Answers: I don't know and no.
Regardless of whether the TMO should have got involved (he shouldn't have) it was not a YC offence. (Unless we were on a warning. )
Dumb as a bag of hammers. But not a YC.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Ahh. A booboo. Three posts down.
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Fuck that. Cynical cheating should be stamped on hard. People misjudging the offside line / coming up too quick, hands in ruck a second too long are judgement errors. What SB did was not a mistake, it was deliberate, so fuck him and the whores he rode in on.
@reprobate said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Fuck that. Cynical cheating should be stamped on hard. People misjudging the offside line / coming up too quick, hands in ruck a second too long are judgement errors. What SB did was not a mistake, it was deliberate, so fuck him and the whores he rode in on.
Nice
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman knocking the ball out of the halves hands while on the ground? no, no it does not.
I mean all the other 'slowing' the ball down. There seems to me quite a double standard.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman knocking the ball out of the halves hands while on the ground? no, no it does not.
I mean all the other 'slowing' the ball down. There seems to me quite a double standard.
This
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman care to elaborate?
Sneaky hands on ball at ruck is obvious one.
Isn't that a "not so sneaky" case we're talking about? Seems to get penalised a lot and would be YC'd in similar circumstances I'm sure.
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Bones said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman care to elaborate?
Sneaky hands on ball at ruck is obvious one.
Isn't that a "not so sneaky" case we're talking about? Seems to get penalised a lot and would be YC'd in similar circumstances I'm sure.
Still deliberate
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It was as blatant as it gets on replay
I've had a thought about this.
Were we on a warning? Or were they so hot on attack that this was a professional foul that prevented a possible try?
Answers: I don't know and no.
Regardless of whether the TMO should have got involved (he shouldn't have) it was not a YC offence. (Unless we were on a warning. )
Dumb as a bag of hammers. But not a YC.
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Man in front of kicker?
Yeah, that gets my Grumpy Old Man back up too.
Years ago, when I used to ride my dinosaur to rugby whilst I was playing for Eden, one of the second division clubs (may have been College Rifles or Tamaki or some such) were denied a victory over Marist (complete with Brooke brothers, Kirwan, Wright and other illuminati) because some poor bloke was fractionally ahead of the 40m+ winning penalty.
It happens at touch finding penalties and kick offs all.da.time.
Pisses me off.
It's cheating and lazy.
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It's so nice to have my prejudices reinforced
Scott Barrett should be fucked off for good
BB is still an ordinary test match 10
TJP is a substandard test match 9 -
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Man in front of kicker?
Yeah, that gets my Grumpy Old Man back up too.
Years ago, when I used to ride my dinosaur to rugby whilst I was playing for Eden, one of the second division clubs (may have been College Rifles or Tamaki or some such) were denied a victory over Marist (complete with Brooke brothers, Kirwan, Wright and other illuminati) because some poor bloke was fractionally ahead of the 40m+ winning penalty.
It happens at touch finding penalties and kick offs all.da.time.
Pisses me off.
It's cheating and lazy.
@booboo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
Man in front of kicker?
Yeah, that gets my Grumpy Old Man back up too.
Years ago, when I used to ride my dinosaur to rugby whilst I was playing for Eden, one of the second division clubs (may have been College Rifles or Tamaki or some such) were denied a victory over Marist (complete with Brooke brothers, Kirwan, Wright and other illuminati) because some poor bloke was fractionally ahead of the 40m+ winning penalty.
It happens at touch finding penalties and kick offs all.da.time.
Pisses me off.
It's cheating and lazy.
I suppose I've become a bit blaise, but I do agree.
And in a world where the TMO checks everything it seems incongruous that, had kick gone over, no questions would have been asked.
Unless away team and Hometown TV replayed ten times! :astonished_face:
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It's so nice to have my prejudices reinforced
Scott Barrett should be fucked off for good
BB is still an ordinary test match 10
TJP is a substandard test match 9@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It's so nice to have my prejudices reinforced
Scott Barrett should be fucked off for good
BB is still an ordinary test match 10
TJP is a substandard test match 9The game has gone soft
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It's so nice to have my prejudices reinforced
Scott Barrett should be fucked off for good
BB is still an ordinary test match 10
TJP is a substandard test match 9@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It's so nice to have my prejudices reinforced
Scott Barrett should be fucked off for good
BB is still an ordinary test match 10
TJP is a substandard test match 9What was that rant he had at Wobs over 'mouthguard' just before Savea illegally fished pill out of 5 metre scrum?
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman man in front of the kicker at restarts has been a thing for years now...seems officials let some of those things go now, similarly hookers with thier feet over the sideline at lineouts
Had it been a penalty which went over, should the TMO have pointed out to ref that men were in front?
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman man in front of the kicker at restarts has been a thing for years now...seems officials let some of those things go now, similarly hookers with thier feet over the sideline at lineouts
Had it been a penalty which went over, should the TMO have pointed out to ref that men were in front?
Yes
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman man in front of the kicker at restarts has been a thing for years now...seems officials let some of those things go now, similarly hookers with thier feet over the sideline at lineouts
Had it been a penalty which went over, should the TMO have pointed out to ref that men were in front?
No, that would be ridiculous. As with any offside, the referee should interpret if it had any impact on the play itself. Clearly in this instance it did not.
Had the ball clattered off the post and Hooper regained the ball or made a covering tackle then it's definitely a penalty though.
@barbarian said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman man in front of the kicker at restarts has been a thing for years now...seems officials let some of those things go now, similarly hookers with thier feet over the sideline at lineouts
Had it been a penalty which went over, should the TMO have pointed out to ref that men were in front?
No, that would be ridiculous. As with any offside, the referee should interpret if it had any impact on the play itself. Clearly in this instance it did not.
Had the ball clattered off the post and Hooper regained the ball or made a covering tackle then it's definitely a penalty though.
It's not "offside".
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@Kiwiwomble maybe Gardner has colour blindness to pink?
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble maybe Gardner has colour blindness to pink?
BTW. Pink boots.
Lining up for the anthem I only saw pink as a colour. Maybe I'm colour blind.
Around a quarter or so had pink, the rest seemed to be black (or at least non noticeable).
Would be an interesting exercise to check correlation with hair colour.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble maybe Gardner has colour blindness to pink?
BTW. Pink boots.
Lining up for the anthem I only saw pink as a colour. Maybe I'm colour blind.
Around a quarter or so had pink, the rest seemed to be black (or at least non noticeable).
Would be an interesting exercise to check correlation with hair colour.
@booboo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble maybe Gardner has colour blindness to pink?
BTW. Pink boots.
Lining up for the anthem I only saw pink as a colour. Maybe I'm colour blind.
Around a quarter or so had pink, the rest seemed to be black (or at least non noticeable).
Would be an interesting exercise to check correlation with hair colour.
Which one of Jordie or Beauden is dying their hair light brown?
