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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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    Not sure I want McKenzie on.

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      @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

      Here's why I'm not against either red card.

      https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

      The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

      Cullen, Kirwan and Mils all on the panel said they don't agree with the red cards. I think most players know rugby is a physical game. Intentional acts should be punished harshly but not ones players have no control over.

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      @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

      @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

      Here's why I'm not against either red card.

      https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

      The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

      Don't be so fucking lazy and get lower. You can do it at scrum time.

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        I don't have a problem with either of the reds under the current rules. Ofa's was really high and he hardly made any effort to lower his body despite having the time to do so.

        The Oz blindside's tackle was probably even more reckless. Shocker that Whitelock didn't leave the field for a HIA.

        I do agree that the reds are overly harsh for both tackles and points to the need of an in-between option. Whether that's a 20 minute card or that particularly is gone for the game but can be replaced by someone after 10 minutes.

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        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

          I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

          Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

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          @African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

          Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

          Thought he was just getting into his stride too. Think Fozzie's seen enough to give him another go. Would be the fair thing to do.

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          • African MonkeyA African Monkey

            I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

            Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

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            @African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

            I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

            Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

            That's the tragedy - he's paying for someone else's mistake

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            • NTAN NTA

              Here's why I'm not against either red card.

              https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

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              @NTA Yes, but protecting people’s brains and preserving the spectacle are not incompatible concepts

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              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

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                @African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

                He will. He’s not Ben Atiga... 😉

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                  Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

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                  @African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                  Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

                  He'll get another chance alright - he was excellent.

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                  • H hydro11

                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                    Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                    https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                    The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                    Cullen, Kirwan and Mils all on the panel said they don't agree with the red cards. I think most players know rugby is a physical game. Intentional acts should be punished harshly but not ones players have no control over.

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                    @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                    Cullen, Kirwan and Mils all on the panel said they don't agree with the red cards.

                    Concussion can (and does) finish careers. Both were too high and hit the head. Players just need to aim lower

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                      I thought they were both reds under the rules as they are, doesn’t mean I think they should be in general though

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                        Gutted to see AIoane go off. He was the pick of the loosies at that point. Should've been Ardie or Reece.

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                          ABs by 13

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                            https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                            The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                            Don't be so fucking lazy and get lower. You can do it at scrum time.

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                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                            https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                            The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                            Don't be so fucking lazy and get lower. You can do it at scrum time.

                            At scrum tim you know the other player will be at the same height.

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                              I really want to see a replay of the off the ball hit on Cane. Garbage that they wouldn't replay it.

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                              • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                                @NTA Yes, but protecting people’s brains and preserving the spectacle are not incompatible concepts

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                                @MrDenmore said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @NTA Yes, but protecting people’s brains and preserving the spectacle are not incompatible concepts

                                This. A hundred times

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                                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                  I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                                  Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  I'm happy with both reds tbh. Both calls were right and sumo is also right with what he is saying.

                                  Gutted to see Akira go. God knows if he'll get another chance or not.

                                  The fact he was going so well won’t be forgotten

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                                  • H hydro11

                                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                                    https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                                    The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                                    Cullen, Kirwan and Mils all on the panel said they don't agree with the red cards. I think most players know rugby is a physical game. Intentional acts should be punished harshly but not ones players have no control over.

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                                    @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    Cullen, Kirwan and Mils all on the panel said they don't agree with the red cards. I think most players know rugby is a physical game. Intentional acts should be punished harshly but not ones players have no control over.

                                    I wonder if Sumo will call them out on Twitter as well.......

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                                      God the ref, how did he miss that forward pass?

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                                        Sam Cane’s improved his running game this year hasn’t he. He’s pretty heavy footed, but he runs good lines!

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                                        • H hydro11

                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                                          https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                                          The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                                          Don't be so fucking lazy and get lower. You can do it at scrum time.

                                          At scrum tim you know the other player will be at the same height.

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                                          @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @hydro11 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @NTA said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          Here's why I'm not against either red card.

                                          https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1325010274890383360?s=20

                                          The problem is that the margin between Ofa's tackle being perfectand being a red card is so small. I'm not sure what Ofa did technically wrong. If you were his coach, how would you get him to change his technique so he pulled off a legal tackle?

                                          Don't be so fucking lazy and get lower. You can do it at scrum time.

                                          At scrum tim you know the other player will be at the same height.

                                          But you KNOW that you can't tackle above the level of the shoulders. It's lazy driving up from chest height

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