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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • H hydro11

    That was shit. We need to have a rethink about the whole way we play rugby.

    We just aren't very intelligent. When Hansen was coach, we would kick the ball a lot in the first half. Then in the second half we would keep the ball in hand and run over teams. Today, we also kicked the ball away a lot in the second half when we were chasing the game. I don't Beaudy, Mo'unga or any other first five we have produced since Carter is actually able to control a game.

    I don't know what to say about our ruck work - it seems we just have too many players who want to carry the ball and don't want to be stuck at the bottom of a ruck.

    I don't know what to say about our attack either. Argentina defended magnificently but we had enough opportunities to win that game. I think the final figure was a bit higher but to only run 126 metres in a game is disgraceful for any team, let alone us. I wouldn't think this bunch of players should need a lot of coaching on how to attack or break down another team.

    There is a lot of thinking for Foster to do. If we lose in two weeks, his position is untenable.

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    @hydro11 the running game is about creating space. We were not moving ball into space and when we did Reiko dropped it.

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    • MartyM Marty

      World has been reeling AB's in since 2015, this was sadly inevitable. Feel bad for Cane.

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      @Marty said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      World has been reeling AB's in since 2015, this was sadly inevitable. Feel bad for Cane.

      It's because we haven't addressed our weaknesses.

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      • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

        And 13+ to boot. Fuck.

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        @Paekakboyz said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        And 13+ to boot. Fuck.

        What were the odds on that pre game

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          I’m really looking forward to the Wallaby Puma game, might Ben a game I can actually enjoy. I wonder what the mood around camp will be like next few weeks.

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          • K kev

            Both our hookers were disappointing, Jordie is still not a wing, Ardie is not a no. 8, Mounga was inaccurate, Frizzell/ Tuipolotu not providing impact to go with size - lost contact, Reiko not a centre.

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            @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            Reiko not a centre.

            That pass he dropped could epitomise his Test career at 13 (which he isn't). Two unbelievably dumb mistakes by him this year which have proved way too costly.

            Get him on the wing in place of JB - he was bloody good there last week

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            • chimoausC chimoaus

              I’m really looking forward to the Wallaby Puma game, might Ben a game I can actually enjoy. I wonder what the mood around camp will be like next few weeks.

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              @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              I’m really looking forward to the Wallaby Puma game, might Ben a game I can actually enjoy. I wonder what the mood around camp will be like next few weeks.

              Might have to watch that one.

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                @hydro11 the running game is about creating space. We were not moving ball into space and when we did Reiko dropped it.

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                @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                @hydro11 the running game is about creating space. We were not moving ball into space and when we did Reiko dropped it.

                It seems like a fair bit of that did come from the breakdown. They slowed our ball down well there.

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  This team has the most Blues players in it that we've seen in a while. I don't believe in coincidences.

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                  @Yeetyaah said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                  This team has the most Blues players in it that we've seen in a while. I don't believe in coincidences.

                  Sam Cane has lost a lot of matches this year

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                    So, Jobs for the Boys has worked out well for the NZRU

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                      First time ABs have had back-to-back losses since 2011.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        @Tordah said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        I always wonder why, when the game is over, or almost over, there seems to be this massive step up in urgency. Why not earlier?

                        Seems like a team mental attitude. If they aren't up at half-time they seem to panic - unless they score pretty much straight away.

                        Then it's panic mode and after that, throw everything at the other side.

                        They played like they expected to win.

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                        @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        They played like they expected to win.

                        Yep. And that always goes well, doesn't it?

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                        • H hydro11

                          @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          @hydro11 the running game is about creating space. We were not moving ball into space and when we did Reiko dropped it.

                          It seems like a fair bit of that did come from the breakdown. They slowed our ball down well there.

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                          @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

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                            Foster mentioned some would be catching early flight home wonder if he will be one of them

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                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              Reiko not a centre.

                              That pass he dropped could epitomise his Test career at 13 (which he isn't). Two unbelievably dumb mistakes by him this year which have proved way too costly.

                              Get him on the wing in place of JB - he was bloody good there last week

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              Reiko not a centre.

                              That pass he dropped could epitomise his Test career at 13 (which he isn't). Two unbelievably dumb mistakes by him this year which have proved way too costly.

                              Get him on the wing in place of JB - he was bloody good there last week

                              He was playing wing when that happened I thought.

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                                @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

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                                @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                                Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

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                                  We don't play Scotland any time soon do we?

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Yeetyaah said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    This team has the most Blues players in it that we've seen in a while. I don't believe in coincidences.

                                    Sam Cane has lost a lot of matches this year

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                                    @Duluth Pretty crazy that five Chiefs made tonight's All Blacks team when they were so bad. I don't believe in coincidences ...

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                                      Aussie fans quietly bricking it.

                                      Just saying that it was 1 handling error by the Pumas. Fark.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        We don't play Scotland any time soon do we?

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                        We don't play Scotland any time soon do we?

                                        Lol. Fuck.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          First time ABs have had back-to-back losses since 2011.

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                                          @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          First time ABs have had back-to-back losses since 2011.

                                          So a good omen for what lies ahead? 😐

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