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Winger

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Every time I read done piston wristed gibbony about red peak I grow more attached to the flag we have now. The feeling doubles when it's a leftard doing the piston wristed gibbony. Make the Aussies change theirs.
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I sure you are deep down slowly being won over jeega. At you know a subconscious level
 
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Winger I clicked on like by mistake instead of quote. I don't know how to unlike it but don't take that as any sort of endorsement of the idiocy of the red peak loons.
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And here's the evidence :yes:

jegga

Someone please send for a doctor, it's my sides . I appear to have split them laughing at Wingers witticisms .

Winger

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We just want something that wont look naff when it flies from our flag poles. I dont give a fuck about 'creating stories'.
Also i dont want New Zealand to be confused with an engineering firm from Seattle.
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See how it works Virgil. You are already 'creating a story' about Red Peak.
 
Not a story that I would create but everyone's different. And that's choice
 
Whereas it impossible to do this with the other flags
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Weâ€re (Virgil is) beginning to find our (his) voice and discover our (his) story. Let this visual designer nudge you in the right direction. Give it a chance and youâ€re bound to find your story in Red Peak too.
 
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I sure you will be 'over the moon' with section 4 too
 
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"> 4 Does it use pure design?
Thereâ€s only one flag in our selection that uses the principles of design to achieve balance and harmony. The others use visual language more at home on a logoâ€Šâ€”â€ŠPotentially, a logo for cheaply made â€˜New Zealandâ€ goods. As a design professional, they appear crass and poorly thought out. Itâ€s a childrenâ€s picture book approach, (oh look a fern!), when we should have moved on to adult fiction and metaphors.
 
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Winger

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Someone please send for a doctor, it's my sides . I appear to have split them laughing at Wingers witticisms .
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 :hi: I don't know why some seem to get so serious about this though (not on here). It's just a flag. Although I want one I like as I think the current flag is shit 
 
But the other 4 are even worse 
 
There is some good stuff coming out of this debate though
 
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booboo

A triangle doesnt tell a story. 
My preferred flag tells a story about an emblem that is inherently New Zealand. It says to me New Zealand is proud of our environment as represented by that emblem. And that we live in a part of the world where we can view the Southern Cross. 
I like it. It is not bland. It is not boring. 
The teiangle does not tell anyone anything about New Zeaand. It says "triangle". 
And yes Quo Vardis I know nothing about vexillology. But i know triangle is the least expressive option and moves me not one tiny bit.

WillieTheWaiter

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what if NZ change to one of the other options, will Aussie retain their current flag for a long time after?
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nah they can have red peak.
 
represents Ayers Rock nicely I reckon.

Winger

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A triangle doesnt tell a story. 
My preferred flag tells a story about an emblem that is inherently New Zealand. It says to me New Zealand is proud of our environment as represented by that emblem. And that we live in a part of the world where we can view the Southern Cross. 
I like it. It is not bland. It is not boring. 
The teiangle does not tell anyone anything about New Zeaand. It says "triangle". 
And yes Quo Vardis I know nothing about vexillology. But i know triangle is the least expressive option and moves me not one tiny bit.
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The blue and black fern?
 
We already have a fern flag. And it will be still used at sporting events etc
 
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Winger

And for the manly man
 
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Kirwan

Look, I like the design but the utter wankery online about the stories and meaning of Red Peak are puke inducing.

booboo

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The blue and black fern? 
We already have a fern flag. And it will be still used at sporting events etc 
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So? 
I like that flag. 
Your fern flag doesn't have the Southern cross.

jegga

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And for the manly man
 
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Yeah, nah.

Donsteppa

If Air NZ ever adopts that livery, this plane geek will be highly unimpressed...

jegga

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If Air NZ ever adopts that livery, this plane geek will be highly unimpressed...
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As a plane geek have you ever seen these on a RNZAF plane? They were briefly there postwar, 
 
<img src="http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/images/main/misc/FERN.JPG" alt="FERN.JPG">

Hooroo

As an ex RNZAFer, I don't recall that Roundel. I shall check Ex RNZAF facebook to confirm

Hooroo

Confirmed!
 
It used to have a fern in the Roundel but it was constantly confused with a feather so they changed it to a Kiwi

dogmeat

My Uncle was a Wing Commander - I remember visiting him at both Hobbie and Te Rapa (where he was CO0 in the 60's and they had the silver fern roundel. I think it was discontinued because it looked like a white feather. It was decided that a flightless bird would be more appropriate for the NZ Air Force

Hooroo

jegga

What is that? An avenger?

antipodean

Yep, Grumman Avenger.

jegga

We had a few variations of the roundel, not sure why. The one on the corsair came with either a red or blue centre, the aussies had a few different ones too.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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The Silver Fern

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