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  • canefanC canefan

    @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

    @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

    Ben feels unappreciated after what happened at the end of last season, appears to be intent on taking his talents elsewhere, regardless of the financial cost

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32250236/sources-ben-simmons-report-done-philadelphia-76ers

    No way the 76ers get value for him right now

    My most hatiest (TM @Hooroo ) player by a long way. How the heck did he get his contract structured to receive 50% of it by October?!

    Also bizarre that he earns $33m in salary, but can play zero games and only get fined a total of $18m - what's he doing to earn the other $15m??!!!

    How can you consider yourself to be a top line NBA player when you can't even make jump shots and free throws FFS!!!

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    @canefan I don’t mind the whole jump shot thing as long as it’s compensated with other positive play. It was clear last season he had lost all confidence and giving up open layups and making dumb decisions.

    Perhaps all the off court stuff caught up with him.

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      @canefan I don’t mind the whole jump shot thing as long as it’s compensated with other positive play. It was clear last season he had lost all confidence and giving up open layups and making dumb decisions.

      Perhaps all the off court stuff caught up with him.

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      @act-crusader hard to build a play off offense though when guys can sag off him and clog the paint around Embiid, then just hack Simmons whenever he drives. I think if he stays a poor shooter, he has to be able to make >65% at the line to compensate.

      Shaq was a terrible FT shooter but at least that didn't stop him attacking. His attempt numbers are outrageous.

      Simmons is just a scared little kid now. Too worried about his image I reckon.

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        @canefan I don’t mind the whole jump shot thing as long as it’s compensated with other positive play. It was clear last season he had lost all confidence and giving up open layups and making dumb decisions.

        Perhaps all the off court stuff caught up with him.

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        @act-crusader said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

        @canefan I don’t mind the whole jump shot thing as long as it’s compensated with other positive play. It was clear last season he had lost all confidence and giving up open layups and making dumb decisions.

        Perhaps all the off court stuff caught up with him.

        Once Rivers and Embiid gave up on him in the media I guess he felt too butthurt to work hard to try and prove them wrong. Rather take his ball somewhere else

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          Andrew Wiggins will not be able to play any GS home games due to his refusal to get a vax. Also misses games in NY and NJ among others

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            And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

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            • canefanC canefan

              And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

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              @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

              And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

              saw a great description of this idiot the other day

              a contrarian without a cause

              just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

              I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                a contrarian without a cause

                just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

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                @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                a contrarian without a cause

                just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                Apparently KD vetoed that

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                  @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                  And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                  saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                  a contrarian without a cause

                  just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                  I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                  Apparently KD vetoed that

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                  @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                  @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                  @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                  And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                  saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                  a contrarian without a cause

                  just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                  I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                  Apparently KD vetoed that

                  yeah, i know. Fuck trying to be the guy tasked with running an NBA team. you don't run shit.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                    @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                    @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                    And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                    saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                    a contrarian without a cause

                    just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                    I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                    Apparently KD vetoed that

                    yeah, i know. Fuck trying to be the guy tasked with running an NBA team. you don't run shit.

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                    @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                    But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                      But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

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                      #957

                      @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                      @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                      But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                      whereas Kyrie is...

                      LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                        @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                        But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                        whereas Kyrie is...

                        LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

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                        @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                        @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                        @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                        But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                        whereas Kyrie is...

                        LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

                        Kyrie is a nutcase for sure.

                        Be interesting to see if the owners and league try to clamp down on this stuff - it's not healthy having players demanding trades and sitting out. AD, Harden, Simmons, Kawhi. They should have their salaries immediately suspended as a starting point

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                          @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                          @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                          But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                          whereas Kyrie is...

                          LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

                          Kyrie is a nutcase for sure.

                          Be interesting to see if the owners and league try to clamp down on this stuff - it's not healthy having players demanding trades and sitting out. AD, Harden, Simmons, Kawhi. They should have their salaries immediately suspended as a starting point

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                          @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                          @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                          @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                          @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                          But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                          whereas Kyrie is...

                          LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

                          Kyrie is a nutcase for sure.

                          Be interesting to see if the owners and league try to clamp down on this stuff - it's not healthy having players demanding trades and sitting out. AD, Harden, Simmons, Kawhi. They should have their salaries immediately suspended as a starting point

                          the next bargaining should be interesting for sure.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                            saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                            a contrarian without a cause

                            just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                            I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                            Apparently KD vetoed that

                            yeah, i know. Fuck trying to be the guy tasked with running an NBA team. you don't run shit.

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                            @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            @canefan said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                            And in the biggest surprise, ultimate team mate Kyrie Irving can not join the Nets as he has not been vaxxed, or he gets an exemption which is unlikely. Because of the rules in NY Irving can't practice there, can't play games, can't play in Denver, San Francisco and a bunch of other cities with similar rules

                            saw a great description of this idiot the other day

                            a contrarian without a cause

                            just a deadshit consumed by his own self-importance trying to pass it off as a conscience

                            I bet Marks sits at home trying to work out ways to trade him for Simmons

                            Apparently KD vetoed that

                            yeah, i know. Fuck trying to be the guy tasked with running an NBA team. you don't run shit.

                            The inmates run the asylum

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                              But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                              whereas Kyrie is...

                              LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

                              Kyrie is a nutcase for sure.

                              Be interesting to see if the owners and league try to clamp down on this stuff - it's not healthy having players demanding trades and sitting out. AD, Harden, Simmons, Kawhi. They should have their salaries immediately suspended as a starting point

                              the next bargaining should be interesting for sure.

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                              #961

                              @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @mariner4life said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                              @mariner4life yeah, it's all changed, player power! All LeBrons fault, right? :grimacing_face:

                              But I can't blame KD here, I wouldn't want Simmons either. Partially because of his obvious flaws and inability / unwillingness to improve on them, but mainly because he seems like a Grade A fuckwit. Looks like a cancerous presence. It's a shame, because his game would be clearly complimentary to the Nets, if he could make FT's at 70% they'd be unstoppable.

                              whereas Kyrie is...

                              LBJ helped fuel it and even you know it. He opened their eyes to what is possible

                              Kyrie is a nutcase for sure.

                              Be interesting to see if the owners and league try to clamp down on this stuff - it's not healthy having players demanding trades and sitting out. AD, Harden, Simmons, Kawhi. They should have their salaries immediately suspended as a starting point

                              the next bargaining should be interesting for sure.

                              So under current rules the players sit out if they aren't vaxxed. And I don't think there is any provision for teams so censure them or cut them

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                                #962

                                LA is ready

                                https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32300086/lebron-james-says-los-angeles-lakers-goal-winning-title-starts-staying-healthy

                                Nice to be able to concentrate on the on court stuff now

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                                  Kyrie will get you a bucket and when they rest KD during games, Kyrie has taken over. Ben goes missing.

                                  Kyrie is a phenomenal player but I can’t stand all this stuff. Even down to not wearing NBA socks in games. Idiot 🙄

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                                    On this player power shit, I agree it's fucking garbage. Re moving on Irving and possibly bringing in Simmons for him, being vetoed by Durant, I agree with suspending his salary as a point of action. I wouldn't miss him. And I think the short term pain for the Nets would be worth it if such a move started turning the tide back towards the GMs running the rosters.

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                                      https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32305199/nba-no-pay-unvaccinated-players-play

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                                        https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32305199/nba-no-pay-unvaccinated-players-play

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                                        @canefan

                                        Without wanting to turn the NBA thread into a Covid thread, Isaac articulates his position pretty well

                                        https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/nba-star-jonathan-isaac-goes-viral-for-covid19-antivaccination-response/news-story/0e0b09011670e944c9e30aaa2899583e

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                                          @canefan

                                          Without wanting to turn the NBA thread into a Covid thread, Isaac articulates his position pretty well

                                          https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/nba-star-jonathan-isaac-goes-viral-for-covid19-antivaccination-response/news-story/0e0b09011670e944c9e30aaa2899583e

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                                          @voodoo said in NBA Season - now 21/22:

                                          @canefan

                                          With ought wanting to turn the NBA thread into a Covid thread, Isaac articulates his position pretty well

                                          https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/nba-star-jonathan-isaac-goes-viral-for-covid19-antivaccination-response/news-story/0e0b09011670e944c9e30aaa2899583e

                                          Unhelpful when trying to encourage others to get the vax. But he has had covid19 and is bound to have passive immunity at some level. But the league can't have disruption that affects the product, so it is as much a labour force issue as a health issue for them

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