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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    this popped up in my feed, god how i'd love to just see some phases and pressure built

    https://www.facebook.com/AllBlacks/videos/10155818656771915/

    And he's trained to get closer to the posts, regardless!
    Thanks for the blast from the past, great to see those players again, in form.

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    @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    Thanks for the blast from the past, great to see those players again, in form.

    Aaron smith was sensational, got to every damn ruck fast it seemed

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

      Thanks for the blast from the past, great to see those players again, in form.

      Aaron smith was sensational, got to every damn ruck fast it seemed

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      @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        Thanks for the blast from the past, great to see those players again, in form.

        Aaron smith was sensational, got to every damn ruck fast it seemed

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        @nzzp said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        Thanks for the blast from the past, great to see those players again, in form.

        Aaron smith was sensational, got to every damn ruck fast it seemed

        and the passes that suddenly got the ball back into midfield, always finding someone that could get over the advantage line, their defence never had long enough to reset

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        • B Business

          Feel that the ABs need to play Laumape just to find out what they’ve got in a do or die game. His contract is up next year as I recall and at 27 years of age everyone involved needs to know what’s on the table.

          Argentina defence is begging for someone to straighten instead of Petaia’s constant drifting. Maybe play him wide with Akira against the weaker defenders and let the wingers run some inside lines.

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          @Business said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

          Feel that the ABs need to play Laumape just to find out what they’ve got in a do or die game. His contract is up next year as I recall and at 27 years of age everyone involved needs to know what’s on the table.
          Argentina defence is begging for someone to straighten instead of Petaia’s constant drifting. Maybe play him wide with Akira against the weaker defenders and let the wingers run some inside lines.

          Petaia? The Wallaby centre?

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            hmm actually we could do with a Crotty in the midfield. He had z ('zzzz') factor but he was under-appreciated IMO.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @Business said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

              Feel that the ABs need to play Laumape just to find out what they’ve got in a do or die game. His contract is up next year as I recall and at 27 years of age everyone involved needs to know what’s on the table.
              Argentina defence is begging for someone to straighten instead of Petaia’s constant drifting. Maybe play him wide with Akira against the weaker defenders and let the wingers run some inside lines.

              Petaia? The Wallaby centre?

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              @nostrildamus I think he was meanign if anyone straightened instead of drifting LIKE Petaia did?

              I'm not sold on Laumape as a starter, nor am I sold on JG at 12.

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                I see, I just was not sure. JG was the straightener. ALB can do it as well, possibly, it is a coach tactic thing. I don't know. But seems to me going straight up the guts was 70 min of stupidity.
                That said, given the Wallabies claimed in their game the Argies were dead on their feet in the last 20, perhaps this weekend they won't be quite so tough.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  I see, I just was not sure. JG was the straightener. ALB can do it as well, possibly, it is a coach tactic thing. I don't know. But seems to me going straight up the guts was 70 min of stupidity.
                  That said, given the Wallabies claimed in their game the Argies were dead on their feet in the last 20, perhaps this weekend they won't be quite so tough.

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                  @nostrildamus yeah always on the cards that by this match, they'd be farked!

                  Hopefully not, as we want a good game not a blowout!

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

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                    @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                    @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                    And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                    It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                      And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                      It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                      And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                      It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

                      correct decision after correct decision

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                        And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                        It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

                        correct decision after correct decision

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                        @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                        @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                        And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                        It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

                        correct decision after correct decision

                        The confidence in what they were doing and players being on the same page whether in close or out wide.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                          @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                          @nzzp yeah I have said it before, if he isnt there, we dont score that, just highlights the importance he is to the team, particularly when they want to play at pace.

                          And the ruck work to help Aaron get clean ball.

                          It still amazes me how it all came together in those circumstances - the passing, ruck work, no one dropped a ball, offloads at pace, wide cut outs,

                          correct decision after correct decision

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                          @mariner4life-"correct decision after correct decision"
                          -->looks at 2020 AB games, stop it, it hurts!

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                            the major tragedy for me this year is Jack Goodhue. Such a fine rugby brain, vision, selfless, hardworking team man, but just too darned slow at 12.
                            Can he be resurrected?

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              the major tragedy for me this year is Jack Goodhue. Such a fine rugby brain, vision, selfless, hardworking team man, but just too darned slow at 12.
                              Can he be resurrected?

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                              @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                              the major tragedy for me this year is Jack Goodhue. Such a fine rugby brain, vision, selfless, hardworking team man, but just too darned slow at 12.
                              Can he be resurrected?

                              if he is too slow at 12, then he is waaay too slow at 13

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                the major tragedy for me this year is Jack Goodhue. Such a fine rugby brain, vision, selfless, hardworking team man, but just too darned slow at 12.
                                Can he be resurrected?

                                if he is too slow at 12, then he is waaay too slow at 13

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                                @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                the major tragedy for me this year is Jack Goodhue. Such a fine rugby brain, vision, selfless, hardworking team man, but just too darned slow at 12.
                                Can he be resurrected?

                                if he is too slow at 12, then he is waaay too slow at 13

                                he seems to be in the right spot at the right time with 13 but then I should say seemed-can he have slowed down in just a year?

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                                  I'm not sure he is too slow for either, he has a rather unorthodox running style that doesnt look like he can run fast, he show a clean pair of heels in some tries he has scored in super and in black.

                                  Am sure they test these guys all the time, and if he is getting slower already...

                                  But if you are comparing him to Reiko, then yep, slow fucker.

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                                    I seem to remember the ABs hanging around with all the cool kids somewhere before...

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123506600/all-blacks-hang-out-with-film-stars-idris-elba-and-taika-waititi-in-sydney

                                    Chicago 🙄

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                                      I seem to remember the ABs hanging around with all the cool kids somewhere before...

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/123506600/all-blacks-hang-out-with-film-stars-idris-elba-and-taika-waititi-in-sydney

                                      Chicago 🙄

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                                      @Machpants Yeah, Chicago was my first thought when I saw that, also, why do newspapers say stupid things like "NZ-born director" instead of just NZer?

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                                        One reason I can see for having Jordie on the wing is it brings his defence more into play. Except he's making some poor decisions there at the moment and so it's not featuring. Probably why they're persisting so he gets used to it.

                                        Although in saying that it was a feature in SRA when he was playing fullback...

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          I'm not sure he is too slow for either, he has a rather unorthodox running style that doesnt look like he can run fast, he show a clean pair of heels in some tries he has scored in super and in black.

                                          Am sure they test these guys all the time, and if he is getting slower already...

                                          But if you are comparing him to Reiko, then yep, slow fucker.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                          I'm not sure he is too slow for either, he has a rather unorthodox running style that doesnt look like he can run fast, he show a clean pair of heels in some tries he has scored in super and in black.

                                          Am sure they test these guys all the time, and if he is getting slower already...

                                          But if you are comparing him to Reiko, then yep, slow fucker.

                                          I agree, I think he could be a really valuable player in the Conrad Smith role at 13. He's just not a natural 12 at all and I don't think he ever will be. It's one of many ridiculous selections we are seeing this year.

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