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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @No-Quarter said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @No-Quarter said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I doubt the Argie give a shit about this game, they got their win and that's all that matters. An absolute hammering will be meaningless to them, and TBH meaningless to the ABs as well. We had to win the first game and we came up well short.

    i really doubt this is the attitude.

    Argentina have made 10 changes to a side that got their first ever win over the ABs. They are clearly just using this match as an opportunity rotate the squad and blood new players.

    On the flipside us smacking a severely weakened Argentina side should be pretty meaningless, but I guess our standards have dropped pretty markedly in recent times.

    this was my first thought, I have seen some comment from Argie fans that at least a few of these are actually what they would have considered first choice previously, there are a couple debuting but it might not be as much of a blood new players situation as a headline suggests

    Which means that the 'first choice' guys that haven't played yet have pressure on them to perform or lose their standing. Also takes away much of the fatigue factor.

    Pass the pipe.

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    @Crucial said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @No-Quarter said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @No-Quarter said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    I doubt the Argie give a shit about this game, they got their win and that's all that matters. An absolute hammering will be meaningless to them, and TBH meaningless to the ABs as well. We had to win the first game and we came up well short.

    i really doubt this is the attitude.

    Argentina have made 10 changes to a side that got their first ever win over the ABs. They are clearly just using this match as an opportunity rotate the squad and blood new players.

    On the flipside us smacking a severely weakened Argentina side should be pretty meaningless, but I guess our standards have dropped pretty markedly in recent times.

    this was my first thought, I have seen some comment from Argie fans that at least a few of these are actually what they would have considered first choice previously, there are a couple debuting but it might not be as much of a blood new players situation as a headline suggests

    Which means that the 'first choice' guys that haven't played yet have pressure on them to perform or lose their standing. Also takes away much of the fatigue factor.

    Pass the pipe.

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    • D Derpus

      @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

      It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

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      @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

      @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

      It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

      I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

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        @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

        It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

        I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

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        @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

        It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

        I never said it was. I just suspect hope that their focus is on next week.

        FTFY

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

          @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

          It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

          I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

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          @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

          @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

          @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

          It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

          I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

          I doubt Cheika and co would have that mindset

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

            It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

            I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

            I doubt Cheika and co would have that mindset

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            @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            @Snowy Im not really convinced by this. Some of the rotations were forced by injury (such as 9) but a lot of the introductions are European based players being reintegrated (Isa, Cordero, de la Fuente) or are first teamers coming back from injury (Boffelli).

            It's probably not the best team they could put out with full fitness but it's far from a B team.

            I never said it was. I just suspect that their focus is on next week.

            I doubt Cheika and co would have that mindset

            We’ll never know but they do have two cracks at it.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

              @Kirwan Yep, with a bonus point.

              They are going to have to look the part, score tries, be aggressive and innovative to shut some of us up.

              I don't care about innovative, just the basics done well is enough.

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              @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

              @Snowy said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

              @Kirwan Yep, with a bonus point.

              They are going to have to look the part, score tries, be aggressive and innovative to shut some of us up.

              I don't care about innovative, just the basics done well is enough.

              I think I'd prefer a tough, hard-fought win where we showed discipline, patience and coolness under pressure, than the usual 30 point blow-out victory after we lose to a weaker side.

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                Curious to see how the bench is used, it is 37 degrees in Sydney already, you would be mad not to take this weekends temperatures in NSW into account. Currently 35 in Newcastle

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                • bayimportsB bayimports

                  Curious to see how the bench is used, it is 37 degrees in Sydney already, you would be mad not to take this weekends temperatures in NSW into account. Currently 35 in Newcastle

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                  @bayimports Foster claims that's why he stacked the bench the way he did - for a late push.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @bayimports Foster claims that's why he stacked the bench the way he did - for a late push.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                    @bayimports Foster claims that's why he stacked the bench the way he did - for a late push.

                    lets see, to be honest if he doesn't make the changes earlier than normal it will be tough. Same goes for both sides, even the wind blowing warm today

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                      Anyone been to Argentina*? I understand the biggest cities are humid rather than super hot in summer and quite a few players would be coming from Europe well - two weeks of an airconditioned hotel - so I imagine they won't have that much of a climate advantage.
                      *on my bucket list for various reasons.

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                        I have been, but not long enough to enjoy a local bbq and rugby game, both items on my hit list too

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          Anyone been to Argentina*? I understand the biggest cities are humid rather than super hot in summer and quite a few players would be coming from Europe well - two weeks of an airconditioned hotel - so I imagine they won't have that much of a climate advantage.
                          *on my bucket list for various reasons.

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                          @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                          Anyone been to Argentina*? I understand the biggest cities are humid rather than super hot in summer and quite a few players would be coming from Europe well - two weeks of an airconditioned hotel - so I imagine they won't have that much of a climate advantage.
                          *on my bucket list for various reasons.

                          Yep, did a lads trip to BA to see the AB's play (and Boca Juniors) in 2018. Decent sport, a few steaks, couple of reds, and a heap of yarns.

                          It was pretty good I guess.

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                            Yes. It is a great place. Huge contrasts. Iguazu Bariloche and Buenos Aires all fantastic to visit

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                              39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                              This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

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                                39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

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                                @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

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                                  @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                  39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                  This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                  And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

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                                  @NTA said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                  @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                  39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                  This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                  And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

                                  🥵

                                  Our rented apartment has no aircon so am sweating my bollocks off!

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                                  • voodooV voodoo

                                    @NTA said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                    This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                    And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

                                    🥵

                                    Our rented apartment has no aircon so am sweating my bollocks off!

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                                    @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    @NTA said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                    39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                    This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                    And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

                                    🥵

                                    Our rented apartment has no aircon so am sweating my bollocks off!

                                    You're not out west are you?

                                    TBH, I don't find this weather that bad (I like the heat which probably contibutes a lot to my hatred of Palmy 😉 ) - I went for an hour long walk when it was supposedly 40deg and it was fine.

                                    I also hate aircon, the actual worst thing about my job is the aircon.

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                                      39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                      This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

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                                      @voodoo hot humid Aussie evening, All Blacks in a must win test match, shades of 03 RWC semi...gulp.

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                                        @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                        This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                        And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

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                                        @NTA said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        @voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                        39 degrees outside. Absolutely fuck playing rugby in this weather.

                                        This country eh? If the animals or plants aren't trying to kill you, it just tries to burn you alive instead.

                                        And it'll be hotter tomorrow!

                                        Have you got plenty of caps ?

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @voodoo hot humid Aussie evening, All Blacks in a must win test match, shades of 03 RWC semi...gulp.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                          @voodoo hot humid Aussie evening, All Blacks in a must win test match, shades of 03 RWC semi...gulp.

                                          😡

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