Australia v India

canefan

@NTA said in Australia v India:

The comments were something about how many wives Siraj had or somesuch.

*Wine - Siraj/Shiraz.

Lost in translation?

Crazy Horse

@NTA said in Australia v India:

So this is in part a colossal misunderstanding, and in part a result of yesterday's events.

On the news, they report the same thing and that police have concluded their investigation.

Bugger. I have already unpacked my whip. We are going to have to start public floggings before the investigation from now on!

Siam

@Crazy-Horse said in Australia v India:

@NTA said in Australia v India:

So this is in part a colossal misunderstanding, and in part a result of yesterday's events.

On the news, they report the same thing and that police have concluded their investigation.

Bugger. I have already unpacked my whip. We are going to have to start public floggings before the investigation from now on!

Unfortunately in this day and age there will be people (maybe on this site) more upset that no racism took place than if it did!

Mick Gold Coast QLD

@Siam

From Sporting News, by Tom Naghten

"Police satisfied spectators didn't r a c ially a b u s e Mohammed Siraj
Police won't be pursuing charges against the men ejected from the SCG for allegedly a b u s i n g Indian bowler ...

Six men voluntarily left their seats to be questioned by police ...

Sporting News understands the men deny making any comments of a r a c i a l nature, while this has been supported by spectators in the bay around them."

The Sporting News report goes on to report angry scowling by Cricket Australia spluttering "unacceptable" and an agitated Justin Langer, who was a fabulous opener, full stop, expressing "outrage" and everyone else jumping aboard what appears to have been the wrong popular opinion band wagon!

I have read elsewhere an account that:

"An Indian spectator in the area later stated that there was nothing a b u s i v e said, just good natured banter. After he had been clouted all around the ground by Green they called out to Siraj, “Welcome to Sydney, Shiraz”."

and that:

"Cricket Australia has apologised to the spectators removed from their seating today after being accused by Indian players"

It would seem the ejected spectators have lawyers. I trust they give the Australian Cricket Board a good bit of financial grief for instigating public humiliation of innocent fans on national television, and a reminder that their primary responsibility is accuracy and truth, not the urgent rush to be conspicuously politically fashionable.

Duluth

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

MN5

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

Now I think about I’m fairly sure the crowd merely asked Hadlee if he was a banker, definitely a legitimate question back in the semi pro days.

NTA

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

There should be enough CCTV at the ground to cover the job. Particularly when there are only 10k in.

The misunderstanding is going to result in - at least - a refund of tickets, no doubt.

NTA

A mate of mine was invited to the Members at Adelaide a a previous Ashes tour - right on the fence.

Anyway, he and a mate were throwing a few witty barbs (his words ) the way of one of the visiting team (Collingwood?) and security intervened because you're not allowed to do that sort of shit at the Members.

Hooroo

@NTA said in Australia v India:

A mate of mine was invited to the Members at Adelaide a a previous Ashes tour - right on the fence.

Anyway, he and a mate were throwing a few witty barbs (his words ) the way of one of the visiting team (Collingwood?) and security intervened because you're not allowed to do that sort of shit at the Members.

I can understand that there needs to be some sort of decorum set within the members area.

Out side of that is fair game. (Not that I heckle)

booboo

@Hooroo said in Australia v India:

@NTA said in Australia v India:

A mate of mine was invited to the Members at Adelaide a a previous Ashes tour - right on the fence.

Anyway, he and a mate were throwing a few witty barbs (his words ) the way of one of the visiting team (Collingwood?) and security intervened because you're not allowed to do that sort of shit at the Members.

I can understand that there needs to be some sort of decorum set within the members area.

Out side of that is fair game. (Not that I heckle)

I wouldn't say fair game, but if what's been reported here is true that falls way within the acceptable threshold.

Some reports out of India trying to suggest it was worse, but to my mind "brown dog" and "big monkey" don't sound particularly Strayan witticisms .

Duluth

@booboo said in Australia v India:

Some reports out of India trying to suggest it was worse, but to my mind "brown dog" and "big monkey" don't sound particularly Strayan witticisms .

I don't think that is the same incident. That was the day before

I agree that it doesn't sound quite right

Hooroo

@booboo said in Australia v India:

@Hooroo said in Australia v India:

@NTA said in Australia v India:

A mate of mine was invited to the Members at Adelaide a a previous Ashes tour - right on the fence.

Anyway, he and a mate were throwing a few witty barbs (his words ) the way of one of the visiting team (Collingwood?) and security intervened because you're not allowed to do that sort of shit at the Members.

I can understand that there needs to be some sort of decorum set within the members area.

Out side of that is fair game. (Not that I heckle)

I wouldn't say fair game, but if what's been reported here is true that falls way within the acceptable threshold.

Some reports out of India trying to suggest it was worse, but to my mind "brown dog" and "big monkey" don't sound particularly Strayan witticisms .

Fair game within acceptable correctness I mean. Especially if they drop a catch etc. I don't mean abuse

Crazy Horse

@booboo said in Australia v India:

Some reports out of India trying to suggest it was worse, but to my mind "brown dog" and "big monkey" don't sound particularly Strayan witticisms .

And if they did say something along those lines you would think there would be at least one independent witness who heard it.

NTA

@Crazy-Horse said in Australia v India:

@booboo said in Australia v India:

Some reports out of India trying to suggest it was worse, but to my mind "brown dog" and "big monkey" don't sound particularly Strayan witticisms .

And if they did say something along those lines you would think there would be at least one independent witness who heard it.

The ease of identifying people in the crowd due to spacing could also be a hindrance to bystanders overhearing it - if the offending party is right on the fence for example and nobody else is within a few rows.

It is a shit situation because sometimes language barrier is the issue.

Rancid Schnitzel

The narrative of racism has been established and the pitchforks are out. If they can’t prove it then they’ll manufacture it. This has now happened more times than Steve Smith has runs.

Anyhoo. Fan of that Manus kid. Comes in as a retired hurt replacement and hasn’t looked back. Class

MN5

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v India:

The narrative of racism has been established and the pitchforks are out. If they can’t prove it then they’ll manufacture it. This has now happened more times than Steve Smith has runs.

Anyhoo. Fan of that Manus kid. Comes in as a retired hurt replacement and hasn’t looked back. Class

Yeah all these decent scores he keeps getting can't all be flukes. Excellent player so far, the stats nerd that I am also notes with interest he hasn't as yet boosted the average with a not out, none in 29 innings ! ( Adam Voges managed 7 in 31 )

I'm still not entirely sure if he's a genuine great in the making or a decent player who has made a fantastic start to his test career though.

Godder

@MN5 said in Australia v India:

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

Now I think about I’m fairly sure the crowd merely asked Hadlee if he was a banker, definitely a legitimate question back in the semi pro days.

I gather that the collective noun for Bankers is Wunch, as in a Wunch of Bankers. At points in NZ cricket history, both Hadlee and Glenn Turner have probably made that esteemed group...

Rancid Schnitzel

@MN5 said in Australia v India:

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

Now I think about I’m fairly sure the crowd merely asked Hadlee if he was a banker, definitely a legitimate question back in the semi pro days.

I remember those days well. Hadlee and Crowe were heroes of mine and I was rather annoyed but couldn’t help laughing. At any rate Sir Richard should have taken it as a compliment. It meant they were shit scared of him. Can’t recall any “Snedden’s a piston wristed gibbon” or “Morrison’s a piston wristed gibbon” chants.

The first proper cricket match I went to was Aus vs England in 87. God Allan Lamb copped extraordinarily abuse. Makes you wonder why these semi professionals were able to remain untraumatised and move on with their lives but ridiculously paid 20 something year olds need counselling and a mountain of Kleenex.

Reminds me of a Merv Hughes story about going to the MCG and the Aus crowd ripping on Len Pascoe (an Aussie himself) about the size of his nose. So Pascoe played along and kept turning around and the crowd behind him kept ducking as if to avoid his oversized schnoz. Now they’d probably all be ejected.

MN5

@Godder said in Australia v India:

@MN5 said in Australia v India:

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

Now I think about I’m fairly sure the crowd merely asked Hadlee if he was a banker, definitely a legitimate question back in the semi pro days.

I gather that the collective noun for Bankers is Wunch, as in a Wunch of Bankers. At points in NZ cricket history, both Hadlee and Glenn Turner have probably made that esteemed group...

Glenn Turner strikes me as being a massively unlikable boring fuckwit.

MN5

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Australia v India:

@MN5 said in Australia v India:

@Duluth said in Australia v India:

So it seems the people sitting nearby agree all that was said was " Welcome to Sydney Shiraz"?

I want to know if that is what Siraj heard. Did he mishear? Or is that was what he thought was worthy of stopping the game for 15mins?
Is that what was reported to the umpires and then the police?

How many times will Broad need to stop a Test match next time he's in Aussie? Or Smith in England?

The broadcasters should reconsider whether they should show live shots of the crowd in instances like this. Showing them just encourages the self righteous mob to attack.

Now I think about I’m fairly sure the crowd merely asked Hadlee if he was a banker, definitely a legitimate question back in the semi pro days.

I remember those days well. Hadlee and Crowe were heroes of mine and I was rather annoyed but couldn’t help laughing. At any rate Sir Richard should have taken it as a compliment. It meant they were shit scared of him. Can’t recall any “Snedden’s a piston wristed gibbon” or “Morrison’s a piston wristed gibbon” chants.

The first proper cricket match I went to was Aus vs England in 87. God Allan Lamb copped extraordinarily abuse. Makes you wonder why these semi professionals were able to remain untraumatised and move on with their lives but ridiculously paid 20 something year olds need counselling and a mountain of Kleenex.

Reminds me of a Merv Hughes story about going to the MSG and the Aus crowd ripping on Len Pascoe (an Aussie himself) about the size of his nose. So Pascoe played along and kept turning around and the crowd behind me kept ducking as if to avoid his oversized schnoz. Now they’d probably all be ejected.

I remember at the Basin Phil Tufnell made some bad mis fielding and copped it from the crowd. To his credit he just made the wanking hand signal at them and took it pretty well. I admired him after that cos he wasn’t a great bowler and an absolutely appalling batsman and fielder but he still stuck at it !

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