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Magpies 2021

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    Finally, a new signing and it looks like he'll be replacing Mason Emerson or Sam McNicol (or Anzelo Tuitavuki?): Dennon Robinson-Bartlett.

    He moved to BOP after finishing school (not getting a spot in our own Academy?), got capped twice by them in 2019, but he returned home after they let him go (I think last year, but not sure). Another member of the 2017 Hastings Boys 1st XV National Champions team becoming a Magpie. I don't think he was one of their stand-outs, so wait and see how he goes at this level.

    He's the son of 2-game Magpies winger Jason Robinson (2002), nephew of former Magpies flanker (2003-2006, 23 games) and world title-winning touch player Nui Bartlett and cousin of Tohu Harris.

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    Here's an interesting article about him from 2016:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/league-robinson-following-a-plan/KRS2YDX5WNFC2QIMOCXSK2WNFA/

    Edited to add: if you ever read or hear about "triple Ds" in a Hastings Boys context, that refers to Devan, Danny and Dennon. They're back together! 😉

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    @stargazer Is McNicol officially gone?

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      @stargazer Is McNicol officially gone?

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      @nepia I can't remember seeing McNicol's name on any club team list since the start of club rugby, so it's more an assumption because he doesn't seem to have played club rugby in the Bay (or anywhere else). So, officially gone, no.

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        Another youngster signed! Josh Gimblett, fresh out of the academy. I wonder who's spot he's taking? Iakopo Mapu's or Will Tremain's? Or are we signing more players this year? Or is he an injury replacement? So many questions ...

        For who doesn't know: he was in the Napier Boys' 1st XV squad that made the National Top Four Final in 2018.

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          Another youngster signed! Josh Gimblett, fresh out of the academy. I wonder who's spot he's taking? Iakopo Mapu's or Will Tremain's? Or are we signing more players this year? Or is he an injury replacement? So many questions ...

          For who doesn't know: he was in the Napier Boys' 1st XV squad that made the National Top Four Final in 2018.

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          @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

          Another youngster signed! Josh Gimblett, fresh out of the academy. I wonder who's spot he's taking? Iakopo Mapu's or Will Tremain's? Or are we signing more players this year? Or is he an injury replacement? So many questions ...

          For who doesn't know: he was in the Napier Boys' 1st XV squad that made the National Top Four Final in 2018.

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          Im not sure about this one,possibly cover for Funaki.I think he probably benefits from being a local,if a player of this standard was signed from elsewhere people would be up in arms.You would think Tremain would be in the squad given they have included him the last 2 years.

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            @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

            Another youngster signed! Josh Gimblett, fresh out of the academy. I wonder who's spot he's taking? Iakopo Mapu's or Will Tremain's? Or are we signing more players this year? Or is he an injury replacement? So many questions ...

            For who doesn't know: he was in the Napier Boys' 1st XV squad that made the National Top Four Final in 2018.

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            Im not sure about this one,possibly cover for Funaki.I think he probably benefits from being a local,if a player of this standard was signed from elsewhere people would be up in arms.You would think Tremain would be in the squad given they have included him the last 2 years.

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            @kiwimatrix Not sure what you mean with a player "of this standard". It sounds a bit negative, but not sure that's how you mean that. If you mean that he's a young (about 20/21 years old) without any experience at NPC level, I agree with you. He's unproven and he'll probably get no or little game time this year, other than for the HB Saracens, unless there are multiple injuries. I also don't expect him to become Devan Flanders - like good, but he has talent and was good at 1st XV level. I haven't seen him in club rugby (he plays in the Wellington comp), but I liked what I saw in that Shield game v North Otago. Still lots of development to do and, yes, I'd rather see them invest in him as a local talent than in a similarly young and inexperienced player from another province.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @kiwimatrix Not sure what you mean with a player "of this standard". It sounds a bit negative, but not sure that's how you mean that. If you mean that he's a young (about 20/21 years old) without any experience at NPC level, I agree with you. He's unproven and he'll probably get no or little game time this year, other than for the HB Saracens, unless there are multiple injuries. I also don't expect him to become Devan Flanders - like good, but he has talent and was good at 1st XV level. I haven't seen him in club rugby (he plays in the Wellington comp), but I liked what I saw in that Shield game v North Otago. Still lots of development to do and, yes, I'd rather see them invest in him as a local talent than in a similarly young and inexperienced player from another province.

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              @stargazer Is he really any better than Mapu or Tremain though who at least play club rugby in the bay.I believe last year he wasn't even starting at club level in Wellington. You're probably right he won't play much,whatever happened to Patrick Teddy??

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                @nepia I can't remember seeing McNicol's name on any club team list since the start of club rugby, so it's more an assumption because he doesn't seem to have played club rugby in the Bay (or anywhere else). So, officially gone, no.

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                @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                @nepia I can't remember seeing McNicol's name on any club team list since the start of club rugby, so it's more an assumption because he doesn't seem to have played club rugby in the Bay (or anywhere else). So, officially gone, no.

                No, he hasn't played at all this year.

                Unfortunately still affected by lingering concussion effects and leg injury.

                Poor bugger just can't catch a break.

                Hopefully the year off will get him right for 2022.

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                  The latest signing for 2021 is Kienan Higgins.

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                    Also signed for 2021: Anzelo Tuitavuki. I'm a bit disappointed. Couldn't they find anyone better? Last year, he was on an injury replacment contract for Sam McNicol. Is he on a short-term contract again and for whom? Surely not a full contract?

                    I hope they give more (complete) info when the team is officially named, whenever that will be.

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                      Next signing for 2021: Will Tremain.

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                        Elijah Martin is in the 2021 squad, too.

                        Not sure what to think of this signing. I kind of hoped that it would be Tiaki Fabish getting that spot, but maybe he's still too young and green? Martin is 27.

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                          Also in the squad again this year: Jacob Devery.

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                            Elijah Martin is in the 2021 squad, too.

                            Not sure what to think of this signing. I kind of hoped that it would be Tiaki Fabish getting that spot, but maybe he's still too young and green? Martin is 27.

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                            @stargazer 100% Agree

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                              The HBRU have posted photos of training (clearly not all of the same day) on their FB page:
                              https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/posts/6065664943474196

                              I see a big guy (must be a frontrower) that I don't recognise in this photo:
                              https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065661860141171

                              Also can't see who is standing to the left of Joel Hintz in this photo (it isn't Gareth Evans, is it?):
                              https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065660863474604

                              Not sure, but Jason Long (who was injured for the club final) seems to be there, but not training?

                              Tiaki Fabish clearly visible on the photos.

                              Almost all are on the photos, but I don't see: Ash Dixon, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Brendon O'Connor, Anzelo Tuitavuki, IWL (injured), Funaki (injured & still with Tonga squad), and obviously Brad Weber & Folau Fakatava.

                              Also don't see Sapsford. Not signed?

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                                The squad will be named tomorrow (Wed) morning.

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                                  The HBRU have posted photos of training (clearly not all of the same day) on their FB page:
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/posts/6065664943474196

                                  I see a big guy (must be a frontrower) that I don't recognise in this photo:
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065661860141171

                                  Also can't see who is standing to the left of Joel Hintz in this photo (it isn't Gareth Evans, is it?):
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065660863474604

                                  Not sure, but Jason Long (who was injured for the club final) seems to be there, but not training?

                                  Tiaki Fabish clearly visible on the photos.

                                  Almost all are on the photos, but I don't see: Ash Dixon, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Brendon O'Connor, Anzelo Tuitavuki, IWL (injured), Funaki (injured & still with Tonga squad), and obviously Brad Weber & Folau Fakatava.

                                  Also don't see Sapsford. Not signed?

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                                  @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                                  The HBRU have posted photos of training (clearly not all of the same day) on their FB page:
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/posts/6065664943474196

                                  I see a big guy (must be a frontrower) that I don't recognise in this photo:
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065661860141171

                                  Also can't see who is standing to the left of Joel Hintz in this photo (it isn't Gareth Evans, is it?):
                                  https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065660863474604

                                  Not sure, but Jason Long (who was injured for the club final) seems to be there, but not training?

                                  Tiaki Fabish clearly visible on the photos.

                                  Almost all are on the photos, but I don't see: Ash Dixon, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Brendon O'Connor, Anzelo Tuitavuki, IWL (injured), Funaki (injured & still with Tonga squad), and obviously Brad Weber & Folau Fakatava.

                                  Also don't see Sapsford. Not signed?

                                  The big prop is Dennis Tapusoa who played against NP East Coast.

                                  Bryn Evans and Ash Dixon were at the aftermatch.

                                  Brendon O'Connor I saw in New World supermarket last Friday!

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                                    @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                                    The HBRU have posted photos of training (clearly not all of the same day) on their FB page:
                                    https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/posts/6065664943474196

                                    I see a big guy (must be a frontrower) that I don't recognise in this photo:
                                    https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065661860141171

                                    Also can't see who is standing to the left of Joel Hintz in this photo (it isn't Gareth Evans, is it?):
                                    https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/pcb.6065664943474196/6065660863474604

                                    Not sure, but Jason Long (who was injured for the club final) seems to be there, but not training?

                                    Tiaki Fabish clearly visible on the photos.

                                    Almost all are on the photos, but I don't see: Ash Dixon, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Brendon O'Connor, Anzelo Tuitavuki, IWL (injured), Funaki (injured & still with Tonga squad), and obviously Brad Weber & Folau Fakatava.

                                    Also don't see Sapsford. Not signed?

                                    The big prop is Dennis Tapusoa who played against NP East Coast.

                                    Bryn Evans and Ash Dixon were at the aftermatch.

                                    Brendon O'Connor I saw in New World supermarket last Friday!

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                                    @number-10 Haha, yeah, I had figured out that it was Tapusoa, considering he played against NPEC in the RS challenge. 🙂

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                                      A few surprises.
                                      Frank Lochore is in the squad and so is Harry Godfrey.
                                      No Caleb Makene, so his injury must be worse than thought.
                                      Maybe that's why they listed Tiaan Falcon as an outside back.
                                      Never heard of Lolani Faleiva.

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                                        This article has Caleb Makene listed.
                                        It says Lolani Faleiva is a LH prop.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/magpies-team-of-homegrowns-ready-for-npc-and-ranfurly-shield/EN3C5WHTUU5BW4LTSI76BAHJC4/

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

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                                          A few surprises.
                                          Frank Lochore is in the squad and so is Harry Godfrey.
                                          No Caleb Makene, so his injury must be worse than thought.
                                          Maybe that's why they listed Tiaan Falcon as an outside back.
                                          Never heard of Lolani Faleiva.

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                                          @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                                          Lolani Faleiva

                                          Not much I can find either but out of NBHS https://www.hudl.com/profile/10245851/Lolani-Faleiva/about
                                          and played for the combined Napier Old Boys-Marist outfit for a couple of years and been at Taradale for the last two. Scored a try in the Madison Trophy semi against the Doolies as it turned out!

                                          Has been at Bessets in The Netherlands as well (in 2019 at least) where he played as a prop weighing in at 120kg and standing at 1.97m tall in his socks (almost as tall as Ardie Savea) when aged 20 https://www.bassets.nl/heren/bassets-1/ There looks to be a few others there with Kiwi looking names amongst the playing roster and coaching staff as well.

                                          I think these are some highlights of his time at The Bassets

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